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[DonTom]

No, EVGo will allow RFID cars to work without network. It caches those sessions and they get billed to your account on a future connection. Hence why it is a smart move to get the RFID cards for EVERY network that supports them (Greenlots and EVGo). I don't have a ChargePoint card any more as their "phone RFID" works perfectly. Electrify America doesn't have cards yet, but they told me that is coming.

I find my Chargepoint card to be very handy. I will take that over the phone any day.

BTW, even the new chargers at the Harley shop are Chargepoint.

I do have every card I can get. I even have the Blink's card for when I am in Tucson. I have not seen any of those charge stations in CA or NV.  I have the Apps also, but as a backup. For an example, the Greenlots charger I use in Truckee, CA will not detect their own card, but works fine with the GreenLots App.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[Sklith]

I charged at an EA station in they Atlanta metro area, and it cost me $9.25 to put in 2.7 kWh, they charged me at the 150 kW rate when it should have been the 75 kW one instead.

[DonTom]

I charged at an EA station in they Atlanta metro area, and it cost me $9.25 to put in 2.7 kWh, they charged me at the 150 kW rate when it should have been the 75 kW one instead.

The problem is shown right on their own screen. 25 cents per minute for 8 minutes doesn't add up to 8 bucks.

Anyway, did you call them? The number is shown on your photo, on top of the screen. They will correct it for you.

FWIW, I find the EA charge stations to be the most flaky of them all, but some of them do work perfectly, but those are not the norm.

-Don-   Reno, NV

[NEW2elec]

Those are the stations from VW.  I still question their true "commitment" to the whole EV sector. 
In the mid to long term those outrageous rates have to come down.  Thar's maybe 25 miles of range.
Assuming a 50 MPG ICE motorcycle and Atlanta gas prices that would be $1.25.
Even if the rate should have been cut in half to $4 that's just gouging.

Sklith, where did you get your Energica and which Walmart was this at?
I'm on the south side of ATL myself.

[Sklith]

The problem is shown right on their own screen. 25 cents per minute for 8 minutes doesn't add up to 8 bucks.

Anyway, did you call them? The number is shown on your photo, on top of the screen. They will correct it for you.

FWIW, I find the EA charge stations to be the most flaky of them all, but some of them do work perfectly, but those are not the norm.

-Don-   Reno, NV

I submitted a ticket thru their app, and they called me a day later asking what vehicle it was. I also told them I took a photo which clearly says it should be billing me at 25 cents per minute, and they asked me to email the photo to info@electrifyamerica.com with my case number, and I did. I don't plan on using EA again until they start billing by the kWh. I'll reply to this thread once I get my money back from them.

Luckily, there's plenty of other DC combo chargers here in GA which are either free or bill more fairly.

Sklith, where did you get your Energica and which Walmart was this at?
I'm on the south side of ATL myself.

It's not at Wal-Mart but at Best Buy off Barrett Parkway in Kennesaw.
800 Cobb Place Boulevard NW, Kennesaw, GA, 30144

[DonTom]

Those are the stations from VW.  I still question their true "commitment" to the whole EV sector. 
In the mid to long term those outrageous rates have to come down.  Thar's maybe 25 miles of range.
Assuming a 50 MPG ICE motorcycle and Atlanta gas prices that would be $1.25.
Even if the rate should have been cut in half to $4 that's just gouging.

Sklith, where did you get your Energica and which Walmart was this at?
I'm on the south side of ATL myself.

The RFlashman trick (in reply #9 here) above has worked for me quite well so far with no hassles at all. I joined them for $4.00 per month, which gets rid of the $1.00 fee just to turn on the machine and also drops the price down to around 25% off per minute.  IIRC, they have three rangs of prices for KWH, but the 25KW of the Energica is at the lowest of minimum level, not really a good rate for us, but it beats running out of juice.

Joining them  requires me to use the EA app on my Smartphone, but it has solved all the problems for me, including having to use the credit card at the machine (which often gets declined when used direct at the machines in  at least the  Elk Grove Wal*Mart). So if those are the most common stations there, you may wanna consider joining them and using their app.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[Sklith]

NEW2elec, I didn't notice you asked me where I got my Ego until now. I got it from Euro Cycles of Orlando.

[NEW2elec]

Ok thanks, I've seen listings for them on Cycle Trader in FL.  I thought maybe a GA dealer had picked them up when I wasn't looking.
You might be the only Ego owner in the state.  Enjoy!

[Sklith]

It would be so nice if Energica decides to make a 6 kW AC charger for their bikes, that much power would be perfect during a trip to a restaurant. DC charging is nice but all the stations near me are priced per minute for 50-75 kW, and 20 kW into our bikes really makes it economically straining. I'm barely able to keep the cost of DC charging at parity with gasoline.

Edit: I've also visited 2 DCFC stations which were operational. This surprises me because I've supercharged Teslas for about 9k miles, and never encountered a single station out of order.

[DonTom]

It would be so nice if Energica decides to make a 6 kW AC charger for their bikes,

Or if the 20 KWH vaporware battery will be out by next year--and they let it charge at ~45 KW. I would prefer that.

I figure the 3.0 KW charging is just for night home charging and then the charge time makes no difference, in most cases.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[Sklith]

If they actually do come out with a 20 kWh battery, the 3 kW charger will feel very slow by that point.

[DonTom]

If they actually do come out with a 20 kWh battery, the 3 kW charger will feel very slow by that point.

Depends on how you look at it. It will be the same number of miles added per hour either way, it's just with the 20KW you will have almost twice as many miles to add.

Even if it takes more than a full night to charge, no problem. I have a 15 KW CCS charger at the Harley dealer down the road just a few miles from here.

What I would be more concerned with is  the CCS rate being more than the current 25 KW, so the fast charging to full will be almost twice as many miles added as now.  I figure a larger battery can handle  charge current in proportion to the KWH of the battery which will be almost twice as much. IOW, twice the miles in the same time charged while on the road.

But such will do no good when charging at the Cahrgepoints Harley uses. They can only do 15 KW max. Very low for CCS. But the Harley LiveWire charges at 12 KW, so it's enough for the LW.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Sklith]

Having a slow AC charger definitely won’t be an issue when DC chargers become as ubiquitous as gas stations, for sure.  But in the mean time, it would be nice to have 6+ kW!

Do you have to pay to charge at 15 kW at the Harley dealership? If so, how much was it?

Edit: I checked PlugShare for the nearest Harley dealership near me with a fast charger set up, looks like it’s free, nice!

[DonTom]

Having a slow AC charger definitely won’t be an issue when DC chargers become as ubiquitous as gas stations, for sure.  But in the mean time, it would be nice to have 6+ kW!

The OBCs are mostly for home charging, so I think they will stick around for a long time. By far, most charging is done at home with any EV.

Do you have to pay to charge at 15 kW at the Harley dealership? If so, how much was it?

Edit: I checked PlugShare for the nearest Harley dealership near me with a fast charger set up, looks like it’s free, nice!

For at least now, it's free here at the Reno HD dealer. But that could change after they have the LWs in. The Harley charger at the Rocklin HD shop is all connected and ready, but they keep it off and they will not turn it on until they receive the LWs--Or perhaps they want to sell one first and that could mean they never turn it on.

These HD chargers are Chargepoints. I was the very first person to use the one in Reno (I was told at the shop) , and I did check-in on Plugshare the same day.

I also checked in for  Rocklin on Plugshare, to say it's still not turned on.

Perhaps if they charge non-LW owners later will be up to the dealers.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[DonTom]

Do you have to pay to charge at 15 kW at the Harley dealership? If so, how much was it?

The Rocklin, CA Harley CCS charger is now on-line, although  they do NOT yet have the LiveWire.

 I used their CCS charger a couple of days ago. This one charged at 20KW:

Receipt    ROCKLINEV1 / DCFAST HOG    Rocklin, CA
   
Energy added    
4.40 kWh
      
4:17 PM-4:40 PM
22m 42s @ $0.00/hr    
$0.00
      
Total    $0.00

Perhaps they will not always be free. Perhaps they will put in a price for all except the LiveWire later. We just have to wait and see what happens.

-Don-  Auburn, CA