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Author Topic: SR/F belt breaks on test ride video. Has anyone else broken an SR/F belt?  (Read 1969 times)

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I see that the unofficial manual has a procedure for replacing the belt on other platforms.
Has anyone done a belt replacement on the SR/F?
What was the general process?  What tools were needed?
I like the idea of having a spare belt.  I assume I need to order that through the dealer?
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I see that the unofficial manual has a procedure for replacing the belt on other platforms.
Has anyone done a belt replacement on the SR/F?
What was the general process?  What tools were needed?
I like the idea of having a spare belt.  I assume I need to order that through the dealer?

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I see that the unofficial manual has a procedure for replacing the belt on other platforms.
Has anyone done a belt replacement on the SR/F?
What was the general process?  What tools were needed?
I like the idea of having a spare belt.  I assume I need to order that through the dealer?
By looking at the SR/F, it looks like it is a lot easier to replace the belt, as there is plenty of room near the swing arm.  I think all that needs to be done is to remove the rear wheel and slip on a new belt and then do the adjustments. 

I am going by what I saw when I did my test ride on the SR/F.  That was one of the things I checked and it looked very easy compared to ALL older Zero models.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Don't forget that the motor sprocket is concentric with the swingarm pivot. That should prevent any changes in belt tension as the swingarm moves up and down. ............

I’m thinking that it’s quite the opposite in that belt tension does vary with swing arm travel.

Under power/acceleration the motor pulls pulls the belt on the top half & pushes on the bottom half so upon compression of shock, belt tension decreases & upon rebound it increases (top half of belt).

I’m betting that most of the miles on that belt were subjected to that bumpy road & it took its toll on that belt.
Other factors may apply but likely  this was a major factor.



 
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That silly sounding pop and whir when the belt snaps made me chuckle a good bit...  ;D   
It was almost cartoonish, lol.
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It looks like you can see the front pulley which means you may be able to replace the belt without removing the swing arm. On the previous models the swing arm has to be removed to get the belt on. If you only have to remove that goofy thingy on the back wheel, a belt change would be simple.
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It looks like you can see the front pulley which means you may be able to replace the belt without removing the swing arm. On the previous models the swing arm has to be removed to get the belt on. If you only have to remove that goofy thingy on the back wheel, a belt change would be simple.

Still have to remove wheel at the very least, so not something you can do on the side of the road unfortunately.
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It looks like you can see the front pulley which means you may be able to replace the belt without removing the swing arm. On the previous models the swing arm has to be removed to get the belt on. If you only have to remove that goofy thingy on the back wheel, a belt change would be simple.

Still have to remove wheel at the very least, so not something you can do on the side of the road unfortunately.

I don't see how taking the wheel off would be helpful at all. License plate holder thing only attached on one side. One belt guard bolt must come out but otherwise just loosen the rear wheel adjustment. Very roadside-friendly job (that i never want to do on a roadside)
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Just guessing, since I have not done any disassembly, but it looks to me like the wiring harness going to the license plate is also in the way.  I assume it unplugs somewhere back there.  Clip some zip ties.  Unbolt the guard.  Then slide the belt around the possum scraper and it has a clear path to the sprocket.
Again, guessing.
And I do not know what is involved in bringing the wheel forward far enough to allow installation on both pulleys now what is involved in setting the tension after.
But hey, I bought a pack of the flat zip ties so I have that covered!
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It looks like you can see the front pulley which means you may be able to replace the belt without removing the swing arm. On the previous models the swing arm has to be removed to get the belt on. If you only have to remove that goofy thingy on the back wheel, a belt change would be simple.

Still have to remove wheel at the very least, so not something you can do on the side of the road unfortunately.

I don't see how taking the wheel off would be helpful at all. License plate holder thing only attached on one side. One belt guard bolt must come out but otherwise just loosen the rear wheel adjustment. Very roadside-friendly job (that i never want to do on a roadside)

You may not have to remove swingarm like you do on previous models, but you still have to remove the wheel.
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quote author=alko link=topic=9275.msg81126#msg81126 date=1565655823

Still have to remove wheel at the very least, so not something you can do on the side of the road unfortunately.


Nope. I actually have one. It looks dead simple. The mud guard/license thingie is only attached on one side, Ducati style. Loosen the adjuster, remove the near side chain fastener. Should be able to slide the belt under the chain guard/fender thing. If not, weak hands perhaps, then loosen the other side too. Belt should pop right on. The most difficult part will be swallowing the near $200 price of the belt.  Photos in link.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the wire. Comes loose when you unbolt the chain guard. Has slack. Just tuck the belt through. Also formatting is FUBAR

EDIT2: OK, wrong about the wire. Must be a plug for it to unhook but it is way late and I don't want to go back out in the garage. I'll look at it tomorrow. Even unlacing the whole swingarm harness would only be a 5 minute job, held on by clips, but there must be a plug on it somewhere. If not, there will be :)


https://imgur.com/a/J62rKYc
« Last Edit: August 13, 2019, 02:20:26 PM by Bill822 »
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I first experienced that rear tire mudguard thingie when I bought a 1997 BMW F650 "Funduro".  At that time the claim was that the German TUV required it to prevent road slop from being flung up into the air and on to following vehicles and it was in-lieu of having a larger rear fender. The one on the Funduro didn't have a license plate or tail light attached.  The first thing most of us Funduro owners did was to remove the entire device, which we called a "possum scraper", as we thought it was not very stylish and interfered with wheel removal somewhat - and besides, most of the vehicles following us would have windshield wipers.   ;)
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quote author=alko link=topic=9275.msg81126#msg81126 date=1565655823

Still have to remove wheel at the very least, so not something you can do on the side of the road unfortunately.


Nope. I actually have one. It looks dead simple. The mud guard/license thingie is only attached on one side, Ducati style. Loosen the adjuster, remove the near side chain fastener. Should be able to slide the belt under the chain guard/fender thing. If not, weak hands perhaps, then loosen the other side too. Belt should pop right on. The most difficult part will be swallowing the near $200 price of the belt.  Photos in link.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the wire. Comes loose when you unbolt the chain guard. Has slack. Just tuck the belt through. Also formatting is FUBAR

EDIT2: OK, wrong about the wire. Must be a plug for it to unhook but it is way late and I don't want to go back out in the garage. I'll look at it tomorrow. Even unlacing the whole swingarm harness would only be a 5 minute job, held on by clips, but there must be a plug on it somewhere. If not, there will be :)


https://imgur.com/a/J62rKYc

Unless the swingarm pivot floats in midair, there's no way you can put the belt over both pulleys without removing the rear wheel.
However, a single-sided swingarm with the belt on the opposite side would be a sweet design and make belt swap a piece of cake.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2019, 07:47:12 PM by alko »
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quote author=alko link=topic=9275.msg81126#msg81126 date=1565655823

Still have to remove wheel at the very least, so not something you can do on the side of the road unfortunately.


Nope. I actually have one. It looks dead simple. The mud guard/license thingie is only attached on one side, Ducati style. Loosen the adjuster, remove the near side chain fastener. Should be able to slide the belt under the chain guard/fender thing. If not, weak hands perhaps, then loosen the other side too. Belt should pop right on. The most difficult part will be swallowing the near $200 price of the belt.  Photos in link.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the wire. Comes loose when you unbolt the chain guard. Has slack. Just tuck the belt through. Also formatting is FUBAR

EDIT2: OK, wrong about the wire. Must be a plug for it to unhook but it is way late and I don't want to go back out in the garage. I'll look at it tomorrow. Even unlacing the whole swingarm harness would only be a 5 minute job, held on by clips, but there must be a plug on it somewhere. If not, there will be :)


https://imgur.com/a/J62rKYc

Unless the swingarm pivot floats in midair, there's no way you can put the belt over both pulleys without removing the rear wheel.
However, a single-sided swingarm with the belt on the opposite side would be a sweet design and make belt swap a piece of cake.

Look at the top photo in the link above or look at an actual SR/F. The swingarm is a non-issue, not in the path of the belt in any way. The motor is the swingarm pivot on an SR/F.

While I do enjoy chatting with "forum experts" I think I'm through with this conversation.
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quote author=alko link=topic=9275.msg81126#msg81126 date=1565655823

Still have to remove wheel at the very least, so not something you can do on the side of the road unfortunately.


Nope. I actually have one. It looks dead simple. The mud guard/license thingie is only attached on one side, Ducati style. Loosen the adjuster, remove the near side chain fastener. Should be able to slide the belt under the chain guard/fender thing. If not, weak hands perhaps, then loosen the other side too. Belt should pop right on. The most difficult part will be swallowing the near $200 price of the belt.  Photos in link.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the wire. Comes loose when you unbolt the chain guard. Has slack. Just tuck the belt through. Also formatting is FUBAR

EDIT2: OK, wrong about the wire. Must be a plug for it to unhook but it is way late and I don't want to go back out in the garage. I'll look at it tomorrow. Even unlacing the whole swingarm harness would only be a 5 minute job, held on by clips, but there must be a plug on it somewhere. If not, there will be :)


https://imgur.com/a/J62rKYc

Unless the swingarm pivot floats in midair, there's no way you can put the belt over both pulleys without removing the rear wheel.
However, a single-sided swingarm with the belt on the opposite side would be a sweet design and make belt swap a piece of cake.

Look at the top photo in the link above or look at an actual SR/F. The swingarm is a non-issue, not in the path of the belt in any way. The motor is the swingarm pivot on an SR/F.

While I do enjoy chatting with "forum experts" I think I'm through with this conversation.

My mistake! Sorry. And thanks for the photo. I've looked all over the internet for a picture like that. Good job Zero!
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