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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2019, 11:11:33 PM »

Still patiently waiting for that report!

I have mine on order. But they told me they ran out of the blue patches, but they will order them separately.  My side bags will come with the wrong color patches, but i was told they are very easy to change.

Do you know how the patches  are put on and removed? I forgot to ask what holds them in place.

I also ordered the Windscreen.

Total: $1020.17, includes the 10% discount and all taxes. And the $24.95 to ship it all out to me.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

So far I haven't noticed any reduction in range. At first, I thought I was getting less range on Saturday when I rode to Elk Grove since even in Eco mode I barely made 60 miles total. Then when I tried to run the battery down to 0% on my daily commute, my commuting range stayed about the same on the freeway and so far this week I haven't noticed any drop in my usual commute battery usage.

The colored plates are screwed in so they are easy to swap out just a little tedious due to the number of screws. Mine came with the blue Energica and Esse Esse 9 plates already installed but the default metal Givi plates were inside the cases as well.
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2019, 02:52:51 AM »

So far I haven't noticed any reduction in range. At first, I thought I was getting less range on Saturday when I rode to Elk Grove since even in Eco mode I barely made 60 miles total.
That's not too bad. But what would you say your average speed was and what was your SOC at the end of that 60 miles? And were you able to get to Elk Grove with no charging on the way?

And do you know roughly how far you can ride at 0 SOC indicated?

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2019, 03:42:39 AM »

That's not too bad. But what would you say your average speed was and what was your SOC at the end of that 60 miles? And were you able to get to Elk Grove with no charging on the way?

And do you know roughly how far you can ride at 0 SOC indicated?

-Don-  Auburn, CA

For the ride to Elk Grove from Antioch I was averaging 55mph with about 7-8 miles at 70mph in Sport mode. Without any stops along the way (other than traffic), I made it to the chargers in Elk Grove with about 12% IIRC. On the way back, I flipped it into Sport mode about 15 miles from home and made it home with about 5% left. Both times I started with 95%.

When I ran the bike down to 0% a couple of days ago, I was able to go about another 2 miles to my house although the bike went into Limp Home mode when it hit 0%. I didn't try to push it farther so all I can say is that I had at least 2 miles of range left when it hit 0%.
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2019, 04:37:57 AM »

For the ride to Elk Grove from Antioch I was averaging 55mph with about 7-8 miles at 70mph in Sport mode. Without any stops along the way (other than traffic), I made it to the chargers in Elk Grove with about 12% IIRC. On the way back, I flipped it into Sport mode about 15 miles from home and made it home with about 5% left. Both times I started with 95%.

When I ran the bike down to 0% a couple of days ago, I was able to go about another 2 miles to my house although the bike went into Limp Home mode when it hit 0%. I didn't try to push it farther so all I can say is that I had at least 2 miles of range left when it hit 0%.
Seems reasonable range to me. When I have a trip planned, I always charge to 100%. And when I got back from my trip to Mtn. View, I forgot to turn my charge rate down when I got home. So I accidentally  charged back to 100% last night. So I will drive my Telsa tonight to go for dinner around 15 miles from here, just to get the charge down a bit. I already turned down the charge rate while I was thinking about it, but after it charged to full.

I almost always charge my two Zeros to 100%. That is mainly because they have  no way to program in where to charge to. But I don't charge it every night, so it isn't too often sitting at 100%.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2019, 08:25:35 AM »

I got my side bags today. CalMoto said they were shipped out yesterday and I get them this morning, which is pretty fast. I have them all installed, that went very smooth. Mine came with silver (blue was out of stock), but silver  matches the front of the bike and perhaps looks as good, if not better than the blue, IMO. So I will probably just leave it with the silver. I will make the final decision when I get my blue patches.

Anyway, what is not going very smoothly is the windshield installation. How much trouble did you have removing the two little screws right in front of the front fork?  Looks like Energica takes after Zero and over-tightens everything (perhaps with permanent lock-tite?) that they want their customers to sometimes remove. I ended up stripping both screws in trying to remove them with a tool that had a perfect fit to start with. Those sure are cheap soft screws and they make it worse by having such a low head. Anyway, looks like I will have to drill into them and then use an extractor.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2019, 08:43:08 AM »

The only “issue” I had was bolting the windshield itself to the mount. I had to make sure to leave the first 3 bolts very loose so I could get the 4th screw started enough to start tightening everything down.

The two screws in front of the forks that you use for the mount came out fine. I think it was because mine originally had the windshield installed and then it was removed prior to sale so they probably didn’t tighten it down as much as when it left the factory.
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2019, 09:55:09 AM »

The only “issue” I had was bolting the windshield itself to the mount. I had to make sure to leave the first 3 bolts very loose so I could get the 4th screw started enough to start tightening everything down.
Yah, I noticed the windscreen was very difficult to line up with the bracket.  I have mine all together, except for those two screws that I need to remove. But I will have to take it apart again to get those soft screws out with an extractor or whatever. I will do that in the morning. At least it is okay to destroy those screws as they are not used for anything.

-Don- Auburn, CA

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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2019, 09:27:04 AM »

It took a couple of hours and a  garage full of tools (extractors didn't work at all) to get both screws removed, but I finally got them both out and the windscreen on normally.

Now, I am just waiting for my CA license plate to get here so I can install one of these.

Then I will be done working on the bike. Unless I decide to run a 12 volt wire to one of these.

I have not ridden the SS9 since I got here from Reno a few days ago. I have been riding my Zero SR. I think the SS9 will be my main cycle to go between here and Reno.

Tomorrow, I will be at EGPS. I have a 1130 appointment for my SR, for the motor commissioning and FW update. Neither have ever been done on that bike since the day I purchased it new. It has around 7K miles on it. After this FW update, I will be able to do all  the others myself, if any.

BTW, how does the SS9 get updates? Or does it?

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2019, 05:20:34 PM »

It’s my understanding the dealer has to perform any firmware updates since there’s no over the air capability built into the bike. Also, from an article I read somewhere, the firmware updates would be too large for OTA updating anyway.
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2019, 05:43:20 PM »

BTW, how does the SS9 get updates? Or does it?

Energicas get updated by the dealers, like almost all motorcycles do.
I got an update in April. Had an issue with faulty indication of TC before (but TC works - just the light lit).
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2019, 08:05:05 PM »

It’s my understanding the dealer has to perform any firmware updates since there’s no over the air capability built into the bike. Also, from an article I read somewhere, the firmware updates would be too large for OTA updating anyway.
Yeah, I recall reading somewhere that the SS9 runs a very large program for its FW.

I wonder if there will be more Energica dealers in the near future. Getting this bike back to a dealer for anything will be a big hassle, the way it is now.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2019, 10:33:33 PM »

Reach out to Energica USA directly. They seem to be really motivated to try and ensure happy customers. They may be willing to work something out with you regarding future firmware upgrades since you're so far from an Energica dealer.

Never hurts to ask. ;)
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2020, 08:00:42 PM »

Thanks for posting this manual, it seems like something that you will not just do on and off the bike for fun.
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2020, 03:54:50 PM »

So I was looking at the bags, Energica wants in Euro's and in Belgium 695 € / $792.00  for a set including the mounting brackets. I saw them for sale under the Givi brand for 345 €
or $393.00 and a bracket for a Suzuki 85 € / $ 97.00. I'm able to alter the bracket in any way so it will save me  265 € /  $ 301.00, money to spend on the windscreen :)
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Re: Side Bags
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2020, 01:56:46 AM »

So I was looking at the bags, Energica wants in Euro's and in Belgium 695 € / $792.00  for a set including the mounting brackets. I saw them for sale under the Givi brand for 345 €
or $393.00 and a bracket for a Suzuki 85 € / $ 97.00. I'm able to alter the bracket in any way so it will save me  265 € /  $ 301.00, money to spend on the windscreen :)

You can of course build your own brackets to mount GIVI bags to the bike, the ones that come with the Energica kit are made to bolt up to your motorcycle. If you have the fab skills go for it, if you want a solution that works out of the box...
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