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[PVNRG]

Thanks Brian, I didn't notice the expand link before. Any idea how to change the MBB clock?

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

I don't see a command for updating the MBB timestamp. The dash clock is available but obviously settable by the physical controls. So, I don't have an answer. Ask your dealer.

[PVNRG]

Thanks Brian. I suppose a firmware update may be in order but hopefully that doesn't make things out of order...

I do question dealers level of competencies in general when it comes to power electronics and such but they should be able to follow software program prompts for a firmware update without trouble. Sucks that I can't just do it myself while even being a skilled electrical engineer.

[RonIL]

Has anyone posted the PASSWORDS?  One of the former technicians shared logs which had a password.  It started with "thomas".  One garage here has cables (they want $250 to loan them to me) but they said they don't have the new passwords and the dealer changed mine after updating software.  I asked them not to update.

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

Has anyone posted the PASSWORDS?  One of the former technicians shared logs which had a password.  It started with "thomas".  One garage here has cables (they want $250 to loan them to me) but they said they don't have the new passwords and the dealer changed mine after updating software.  I asked them not to update.

Nope (aside from the level 1 password which is embedded in the mobile app because that's what it uses to sign in). Zero does NOT like people even sharing the passwords privately. The Level 3 password changed as of MBB firmware from 2017, and Zero dealers and their service technicians don't even see the passwords any more, since they're embedded in the GUI tools used to service the bikes.

There's more going on in this area that I don't like, but I need a strategy and reason to publish any details.

[PVNRG]

Probably a good idea to install a miniature hidden packet sniffer / logger on the data lines before getting the next firmware update. Does anyone have any low cost favorites to recommend?

[PVNRG]

This one looks like it might be good:

https://www.amazon.com/SparkFun-LYSB00ADSNLMI-ELECTRNCS-OpenLog/dp/B00ADSNLMI

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

There is also the CSS Electronics range of loggers. I'm using a CL2000 on my bike. But I haven't had a dealer touch it. It does require some wire splicing to make work, though, and although I have a decoder working, some of the details of the decoding need a little cleanroom work for me to release responsibly.

https://www.csselectronics.com/screen/page/can-logger-products

[PVNRG]

I got the https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13712 and it looks great!! Going to hook up a couple coin cells and should be good to go. Total package should be about the diameter of a quarter and less than half an inch thick. Should be easy to stuff in a hidden location. I'm assuming I can connect to the UART lines to pickup the programming computer handshake / login with the bike the same way as hooking up the laptop for consol command prompt access. Make sense?

[PVNRG]

When the dealer logs in to update the firmware, is the login done through UART or is it done through CAN?

[AutoE]

the FW update may be "hacked" for multiple password reveals.