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[NEW2elec]

Quote from me:
I know I want to see a video interview/ride of the Strike with an outside reviewer or even an in house mock interview just to get a better picture of what it is and does.

So I think they went with the mock in house interview.

[alko]

Didn't learn anything new. As long as parts arrive at the factory as scheduled, than deliveries will be on time. I thought on time meant July. Has that changed?

[wavelet]

Didn't learn anything new. As long as parts arrive at the factory as scheduled, than deliveries will be on time. I thought on time meant July. Has that changed?

Completely content free, all vague statements...
Except that he said they're "on track"schedule-wise. Unless they deliver bikes during the next 3 days, that's false as the March PR did said "Strike deliveries will begin in July 2019".
Also, one of two people with deposits on the Strike posted here in the forum that they've been told to expect their bike in Aug./Sept.

[NEW2elec]

I think the part that concerned me the most was at the end he's talking about other "new" products that will be coming out.
As if the Strike was old hat at this point. 
A bike with the specs of the Carbon Strike is the BEST electric motorcycle option by far.  The fact that they aren't shouting that fact from the roof tops gives me pause.  It makes people question that "fact".

I really hoped they would put on a good show at the open house and show the bikes in action, even if it was a closed area short ride like the Tesla Roadster II put on.

Wavelet I think the post was "if" he had put money down on one at that time he he was told he could get it by Aug/Sept.  Which a few months delay isn't the end of the world.  I want to see the thing do what they say it can do, which isn't too much to ask.

[wavelet]

I think the part that concerned me the most was at the end he's talking about other "new" products that will be coming out.
As if the Strike was old hat at this point. 
A bike with the specs of the Carbon Strike is the BEST electric motorcycle option by far.  The fact that they aren't shouting that fact from the roof tops gives me pause.  It makes people question that "fact".

I really hoped they would put on a good show at the open house and show the bikes in action, even if it was a closed area short ride like the Tesla Roadster II put on.

Wavelet I think the post was "if" he had put money down on one at that time he he was told he could get it by Aug/Sept.  Which a few months delay isn't the end of the world.  I want to see the thing do what they say it can do, which isn't too much to ask.

You're right -- I was confusing two posts; I meant this one, which says August, and of course, a few months delay is to be expected from a startup.

Like you, it's concerning that they're not publishing full specs about the Strike, or showing it actually being ridden, or trying to talk it up everywhere; they're also talking about the LS-218 as if it were a real product, although I've yet to see proof that they've ever sold more than one, in 2014.

[ultrarnr]

If you look at Lightning's web site they are making no effort at all to sell the Strike. There are no specs, no photos, only a link to reserve one. The Strike Carbon Edition reservation link says it is comes with every available option yet they don't tell you what options those are. You have to wonder how it was determined that these were the best moves. 

[Richard230]

If you look at Lightning's web site they are making no effort at all to sell the Strike. There are no specs, no photos, only a link to reserve one. The Strike Carbon Edition reservation link says it is comes with every available option yet they don't tell you what options those are. You have to wonder how it was determined that these were the best moves.

Perhaps their history selling the LS-218 is where they got their marketing plan for the Strike. 

[Bill822]

If you look at Lightning's web site they are making no effort at all to sell the Strike. There are no specs, no photos, ...

If you look in the "Blog" section there is an old post with the Strike specs.
No, the numbers still don't make sense.

Did anyone here go to the Open House. I can't find a single post here or other social media that mentions being there or how it went.

[MVetter]

Did anyone here go to the Open House. I can't find a single post here or other social media that mentions being there or how it went.

https://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535321&page=4

From what I can tell they had 3 Strikes behind a chained off area. No touching, and you weren't supposed to photograph them either. The blue and yellow one look mostly finished, but the white one is full of raw milled parts. They were never turned on or demonstrated as functioning to the public in any way. The highlights of the day included riding electric bicycles in some sort of slow race with a $50 prize for first, and a taco truck. Richard gave a presentation that revealed no new information.

[wavelet]

Did anyone here go to the Open House. I can't find a single post here or other social media that mentions being there or how it went.

https://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535321&page=4

From what I can tell they had 3 Strikes behind a chained off area. No touching, and you weren't supposed to photograph them either. The blue and yellow one look mostly finished, but the white one is full of raw milled parts. They were never turned on or demonstrated as functioning to the public in any way. The highlights of the day included riding electric bicycles in some sort of slow race with a $50 prize for first, and a taco truck. Richard gave a presentation that revealed no new information.

Thanks for the link. That was interesting.
At least it looks like 3 units of the LS-218 actually exist, as well as at least 3 units (prototypes?) of the Strike, but like you say, not even showing them ridden is odd.

The choice of venue for a presentation -- a local club meet, I understand --  is even odder; why spend time on bringing the bikes,  preparing & giving a presentation over publishing info on the website or a static (no riding) press event?
I actually thought the concept bikes, that is 2-hub-motors, and in-swing-arm motor, were interesting as well, even if they're not doing any more work on them.
It at least shows they've been doing something the past 5 years.

[Richard230]

With sales apparently averaging one or two LS-218 models each year it is a mystery to me what keeps Lightning afloat.   

Could it be hot air?   

[Bill822]

The most disheartening thing was the photos of those Chinese red hubmotor bikes. Similar bikes all over Alibaba for sub-$2000. Not a good sign.

I have worked with Chinese manufacturers. It is possible to get quality components from them. it requires careful vetting and hands-on supervision of each component supplier along with ongoing thorough inspection of parts. An unauthorized "substitution" of an identical looking but defective part once cost me the equivalent of a lovely Italian sports car in warranty repairs. In the field that $10 bad part ruined a $300 part and cost me up to $1000 in labor for each bad part I built into a machine that shipped.

Who will cover warranty for Lightning? Who is supervising assembly in China?

[MVetter]

Bill's momma didn't raise no dummies

[NEW2elec]

Well the web site is updated.  The Strike gets first tab and gets a spec section back.
Some of the numbers are a little different with the range number seeming a bit low for a 20kWh battery.
But here it is.

https://lightningmotorcycle.com/strike-carbon-edition-specifications/

And they are different numbers than what is on the "About Strike" section.   Sigh.

https://lightningmotorcycle.com/strike/

[wavelet]

Well the web site is updated.  The Strike gets first tab and gets a spec section back.
Some of the numbers are a little different with the range number seeming a bit low for a 20kWh battery.
But here it is.

https://lightningmotorcycle.com/strike-carbon-edition-specifications/

And they are different numbers than what is on the "About Strike" section.   Sigh.

https://lightningmotorcycle.com/strike/

Hmmm... Let's see what changed since the March PR:

-- Curb weight: Is now lower (485lbs to 455lbs / 220kg to 207kg ) -- and incidentally, someone there doesn't even know how to round non-integer numbers. 455lbs is 207kg, not 206kg.

-- Motor (called "engine", which isn't bad English): Explicitly 300V, which makes CCS possible, and liquid-cooled as is the inverter (probably they mean "controller" by this as well)
Power: same (120BHP).
Torque: Much higher (250Nm vs. 180nm) -- this should mean it's a different motor than the other variants.

-- Battery: Explicitly liquid-cooled, which is good if true (and hard to credit given the low weight).
Same capacity.

-- Charging (presumably using CCS): "recharging from 0" (to what??) 40min, so quite unclear. No actual peak rate given; used to be "35min to add 100mi" (without giving SoC start/end states)

-- Wheel/tire sizes & types finally given (and rear is an eyebrow-raising 200/50ZR17 ). Claim Pirelli Supercorsas, which would be decent.

-- Ditto decent Brembo brakes.

Range: "Up to 120 miles at road-legal speeds " . Which means what? 25mph is also road-legal. Even if they mean highway speeds, AFAIK limits vary quite widely in the US, from 50 to 80mph. 

If this is all they could be bothered to do when finally fixing their site after 6 months,  not impressed -- and no data about the other variants.