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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #195 on: May 30, 2019, 01:14:18 AM »

Got the T shirt and book in the mail yesterday. It’s keeping my parking space warm for hopefully only a few more days.
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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #196 on: May 31, 2019, 01:31:32 AM »

Called Zero since I was told SRF was shipping this week.

They said I had to call the dealer. Dealer has no updates:(

I wish I could just get a straight answer since I arranged financing based on the May 1 date I was initially told which is now expired. Oh well, at least I got the T shirt for now.
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« Reply #197 on: May 31, 2019, 02:06:36 AM »

Called Zero since I was told SRF was shipping this week.

They said I had to call the dealer. Dealer has no updates:(

I wish I could just get a straight answer since I arranged financing based on the May 1 date I was initially told which is now expired. Oh well, at least I got the T shirt for now.
So I called my dealer to get an update and if course he didn't know any dates.  He says that Zero has a shortage of parts to assemble the bikes and that is why they are being delayed.  Not sure how much is true or bull but it is getting tiring.
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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #198 on: May 31, 2019, 02:25:44 AM »

If it makes you feel better, they are slow playing my DSR order as well.

My FX came pretty quick in February, but they are telling me ship mid June for DSR.
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« Reply #199 on: May 31, 2019, 02:58:56 AM »

I may have missed it but has anyone seen or recieved an SR/F that wasn't a demo bike?
I know at least one person claimed to have purchased a demo bike, but have there been any production bikes at all?

I ordered on March 10 and left a deposit. When my dealer had no update information I contacted Zero at the beginning of April. They replied "The dealer should keep you updated but currently we are looking at the end of April to mid May." No word at all since than, same as most of you. I wonder if they have shipped any production bikes at all or whether there might have been some (minor or significant) problem with components. If it were simply issues ramping up the assembly process I should have expected production bikes to be trickling out by now.

Either way the lack of information coming out of Zero is somewhat concerning. This is my first dealing with the company. Unlike Lightning they are a real motorcycle company, but I would hope they would offer better information. I put off purchasing a similarly priced sports touring bike for the SR/F and here in Texas we are well into the riding season.
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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #200 on: May 31, 2019, 04:24:21 AM »

I am the one who is supposedly getting the demo bike, but it hasn’t shipped yet to my dealer.

An interesting note...my dealer said that Zero told him the bike was on a truck to ship last week, and they then took all the bikes off the truck to address some issue. It is still “scheduled to ship this week” from the update I got from the dealer today, but they couldn’t give me the VIN.

Sounds to me like they may have discovered a bug they wanted to address before shipping the bikes out, but who knows.
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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #201 on: May 31, 2019, 05:50:14 AM »

We're expecting customer bikes to land here in the UK in a couple of weeks. I'm not holding my breadth though.  If I get mine on the road and registered by the end of June I'll be happy.

If there is any truth in that, it must mean they were put on a ship a good while ago.  Bikes are definitely coming off the line and I hear Zero have the capacity to produce 8000 bikes a year, in total, including all models.  The SRF is bound to be more profitable than all the others, so they'll stamp as many out as they can before they have to start manufacturing the 2020 bikes.

As for the lack of information, that's simply due to a lack of staff to service enquiries like that.  All good things come to those who wait.  At least we're not trying to buy a BMW S1000RR.  Put your money down now and you'll be lucky to get one in January!
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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #202 on: May 31, 2019, 06:05:18 AM »

I am the one who is supposedly getting the demo bike, but it hasn’t shipped yet to my dealer.

An interesting note...my dealer said that Zero told him the bike was on a truck to ship last week, and they then took all the bikes off the truck to address some issue. It is still “scheduled to ship this week” from the update I got from the dealer today, but they couldn’t give me the VIN.

Sounds to me like they may have discovered a bug they wanted to address before shipping the bikes out, but who knows.
I am the one who is supposedly getting the demo bike, but it hasn’t shipped yet to my dealer.
Your dealer will probably be told by Zero that they cannot sell it to anybody when it arrives.

I was ready to buy the only SR/F  here in Reno right on the spot until another sales guy told the guy I was dealing with that they were not allowed by Zero to sell their  SR/F demo bike. Perhaps not until  they have other SR/F's in stock that are waiting to be sold,  and we all know that won't be for a while.

But good luck anyway, and let us know what happens.

-Don-  Reno, NV

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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #203 on: May 31, 2019, 07:41:10 AM »


Either way the lack of information coming out of Zero is somewhat concerning. This is my first dealing with the company. Unlike Lightning they are a real motorcycle company, but I would hope they would offer better information. I put off purchasing a similarly priced sports touring bike for the SR/F and here in Texas we are well into the riding season.
Hey Bill, this is so similar to my situation.  I have been following Zero for a few years at the motorcycle shows.  They always peaked my interest but I never really thought about buying an electric bike.  I was originally looking to purchase a touring bike (which would have been more cash) but i decided to test ride a Zero first being I was hearing they were announcing a new bike.  After I test rode an SR I knew I wanted to see what this new bike offered.  When the SR/F was announced it was 95% of what I wanted in an electric bike.  So I abandoned the idea of the touring bike and put a deposit on the SR/F at the beginning of March.  Since then I have questioned my choice a few times. 

My main complaint is the lack of communication.  It seems Zero is telling us nothing and the dealers know less.  I understand with a new bike there are some setbacks and growing pains.  If they communicated with the dealers what was causing the delays and the dealers told the customers I could respect that.  Even if they hit an unacceptable delay due to a major problem, if I had the true information, I could make an informed decision whether to wait.  Right now all I have is a card from them saying my bike was being built last week.  So how long does it take to build a bike?  You would think even if they were the slowest workers in the world, it should be done this week and shipping next week.  Well I just called my dealer and he knew nothing about my bike being built or when it was shipping.  He was guessing maybe they ran out of parts.  He didn't know what excuse to use for Zero anymore. 

So here where I stand now.  If they deliver the bike in the next few weeks and it is really great, all the bad feelings will be forgotten and I will be a new Zero convert.  If they deliver a piece of garbage after all this time or they keep me waiting in the dark until July where i have to pull my deposit back, I will be pissed that I spent half the riding season waiting on the SR/F and missing sales on the other bike and become one of the people who will look for opportunities to  tell people how I really feel about the company. 
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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #204 on: May 31, 2019, 01:40:03 PM »

Thanks to all for replies.

GaryArt1: Zero is a small boutique manufacturer building a new high tech machine. I understand their situation since I ran a similar business for years (decades, actually). On a new product launch everything hinges on your suppliers delivering countless parts correctly made and doing so in a timely manner. Any one supplier or part error can stop the whole line. gstrub's post above pretty well satisfies me on that point. Finding one bad wire harness 2 weeks into production would be enough to stop everything and inspect all the harnesses, even stop deliveries already shipped if the error is severe enough that the dealer couldn't rectify it.

Prototype parts from suppliers are always carefully inspected. Pre-production parts get above average QC inspections. It's the first big batch of custom parts where things can get suddenly sketchy. I've seen it happen much more than once.

But when I had an issue with production that would impact delivery dates I was always upfront about it. I also fought against optimistic delivery dates. Zero is a manufacturer, not a distributor. They don't have the manpower to deal with every consumer. That's why they have dealers. What annoys me is that they haven't kept their real customers, Their dealers, informed. Now dealers, it appears, have little information to give concerned customers like you and me. This poor and inaccurate information spreads bad feelings where there should (I hope) be none.

So GaryArt!, I think we should be patient.

But this post is really for Jeff Jolin @ Zero. An accurate "I don't know" or "we're fixing a problem" puts you miles ahead with customers. Really. Just read the posts in this thread.
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« Reply #205 on: May 31, 2019, 04:35:40 PM »

Bill.  I agree with most of what you said.   I never expected Zero to contact customers directly to keep them informed of the progress.  I did expect them to keep their dealer reps informed who would keep their dealers informed who would then keep us informed.  This is the way it should work and actually the smaller the company, the better this system should work.  I have learned from my work in crisis management that the only thing worse that no information is false information.  The problem is false information will then have you always questioning the validity of any real information after it.  That is what I think we are getting now.  I think dealers are getting tired of customers calling them on the status of their bikes and not having any information to give them.  I mean how often can they say maybe in two more weeks.  So the dealers are forming their own stories of what is happening.   This is how we have information from the bikes were on trucks ready to ship and were pulled off to fix a problem, to they have run out of parts to complete the bikes to European bikes have already arrived there and are ready to distribute.  You do not know what to believe.  If Zero discovered a big problem we all would have appreciated them holding back release to fix the problem rather than ship us a defective bike.   All they had to do is to have there dealers reps put out the message that they found an issue and are actively working to correct it so they can send out their best product and it should be approximately X more weeks for shipments.  If they are running out of parts, that is another story.  The only “real” information I got from Zero is that last week they were building my bike.  If I didn’t know better, it looked like they even sent a photo of my bike being built.  If they didn’t have the parts to complete the bike, then this is a untruthful marketing campaign to keep the customers on the line and not pulling their deposits.  Then that would make me question anything that came out of the company in the future.  I mean Zero had to know this launch would be big.  They talked about how much effort went in to make the perfect bike.  If they misestimated the response, that is kind of their fault.  If they rushed the launch to beat out Harley and Lightning, once again, their fault.  And by the way they are still taking orders and make delivery promises.  What it comes down to if I was told in March that the delivery wouldn’t be until the end of the summer, I could have then made an informed decision as to whether this is a bike I wanted to order.  As of right now, I am totally in the dark as to when my bike is coming.  All i know is that they said it was being built but no one knows if it was completed and when it will ship.  And BTW, my dealer seemed even surprised we got a note about the bikes being built.
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Re: Zero SR-F Order thread
« Reply #206 on: May 31, 2019, 06:24:32 PM »

At some point in the future, this will be over and everyone will have their SR/F's and be content with them, I suspect.
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« Reply #207 on: May 31, 2019, 11:44:50 PM »

At some point in the future, this will be over and everyone will have their SR/F's and be content with them, I suspect.
Yes it is funny how it goes.  We are all upset and complaining but as long as the bike is good and they don’t release it too late, 2 days after we get it we will be happy and this will all be forgotten about.
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« Reply #208 on: June 01, 2019, 03:26:26 AM »

At some point in the future, this will be over and everyone will have their SR/F's and be content with them, I suspect.
Yes it is funny how it goes.  We are all upset and complaining but as long as the bike is good and they don’t release it too late, 2 days after we get it we will be happy and this will all be forgotten about.

At least Zero is not doing what BMW typically does when they introduce an entirely new model.  They love to start selling their new bikes during the middle of winter, when most people's riding season is over.  ::)
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« Reply #209 on: June 01, 2019, 05:04:51 AM »

At some point in the future, this will be over and everyone will have their SR/F's and be content with them, I suspect.
Yes it is funny how it goes.  We are all upset and complaining but as long as the bike is good and they don’t release it too late, 2 days after we get it we will be happy and this will all be forgotten about.

At least Zero is not doing what BMW typically does when they introduce an entirely new model.  They love to start selling their new bikes during the middle of winter, when most people's riding season is over.  ::)
we don’t know that they are not lol. Bike was supposed to be out 2 months ago. Going into summer now with smoke and mirrors still. Soon we could be heading into fall in the exact same situation.  Why? Because no one has real info. Hopefully the bike actually ships in June to  actual customers but hopefully has been the cursed word of this whole process.
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