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[Richard230]

The dealer in Phoenix said the demo will be delivered tomorrow (Thursday 5/2), and to plan on a test ride this weekend. I'm going to wait until next Tuesday morning so hopefully they don't notice how long I'm gone =)

I think Zero is smart to get a few customer butts on pre-delivery bikes to get feedback before final rollout - they are 2020s after all. The sales guy showed me the 'out-the-door' bill on a pre-order with all the bells and whistles; $24,700 (rounded) including tax and tag. 
 

For that kind of money, the rear shock and front forks should at least be painted gold.   

[Bill822]

If you're in the Dallas/Fort Worth area Eurosport Cycle in fort worth on hwy 121 has a demo bike now. They will have it at a track day in Cresson on Monday. I'll get video if I can. No word on my bike yet.

[gborgan]

I will tell you one thing.  At least in the US, they will lose sales if they are telling people after a test ride that the bike will not be delivered for 3 months.  People will walk out and walk into another dealer to buy an ICE bike off the floor.  Hopefully they invest the new insurance of capital they just got into building their manufacturing capability.  You can have the best product.  If you can't produce they to meet demand, you will lose money.
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Too bad Zero doesn’t have an Elon Musk equivalent who can take $1,000 deposit for a car that doesn’t exist and make you happy to wait 3 years for it. Then when it arrives, you are even happier to pay double for a sportier version since they still don’t make the base model you ordered.    Imagine waiting years for your SR/F and then paying $30,000+.  It’s all fascinating stuff.



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[chrisho]

What is the standard shipping costs on Zero bikes (east coast) and are there typical setup fees set by Zero ?

[GaryArt1]

What is the standard shipping costs on Zero bikes (east coast) and are there typical setup fees set by Zero ?

I have seen them vary widely from $495 to $1400 for delivery and setup.  This is usually the "negotiable" part of the price.  The higher end will be a lot more negotiable than the lower.

[Ermahgerd]

My dealer comfirmation shows it costs them 434,35 € for shipping it to the dealer (germany). I could only get him to agree on a 1k discount on the bike + they would pay for shipping and do the 1st inspection. Apparently their margins are much lower on Zero bikes than on most other brands.

[GaryArt1]

Just talked with my dealer.  No new news on the preorders.  He says Zero told him they are still shipping demo units.  They won't start shipping preorders until all the demos are out.  At this time, they have no anticipated ship date for my preorder. Guessing Zero is not going to make their original estimate of late April/Early May.  I just wish they would give the dealers better info.

[dpmcdonald]

Just talked with my dealer.  No new news on the preorders.  He says Zero told him they are still shipping demo units.  They won't start shipping preorders until all the demos are out.  At this time, they have no anticipated ship date for my preorder. Guessing Zero is not going to make their original estimate of late April/Early May.  I just wish they would give the dealers better info.

I wonder how many demos they are shipping...

[GaryArt1]

I wonder how many demos they are shipping...

My guess is one of the issues is that many of the dealers are ordering demo SR/Fs being the bike is so different than the rest of the line up and is expected to sell well.   Most of the dealers I checked previously did not have every new model bike so it wasn’t a big deal until now.  I am guessing they all or most will have this one.  Loooking at the dealer map and just taking a visual guesstimate I would say they have about 100 dealers in the US and about that much oversees.  That could be 200 demo bikes they need to get out there.  My guess is that is as many bikes that was preordered before the test rides so it may take them a while to get the bikes to customers.  My dealer originally thought the bike he was getting in this week was one of his preorders but Zero has “clarified” it for him that it is a demo and not for sale at this time. 

So I am hoping they are coming to the end of supplying the demo bikes and will begin on the preorders.  I guess it is just a matter of how fast they can make them and how they will ship them.  I am hoping they will manuafacture/ship them in the order of the preordering being i preordered pretty early.  I am guessing they may wait and ship in batches to certain geographical areas being this would be most economical.  I am really hoping by mid June at the latest getting the bike.  The riding season is not the longest here in the Northeast and I hate to get a new bike too late in it.  If we start looking for a delivery much later than that, I will probably rethink my purchase.

[vinceherman]

I just wish they would give the dealers better info.

+1
I get that the dealer demo rollout is something like a soft opening, where you use a limited pool to look for issues before opening to the general public.
But why is sharing info with the dealers and pre-orderers so scarce?
I would much rather hear how the rollout is going.
For me, hearing how the rollout is going, what issues are being investigated and what changes to the process are being made along the way is much better than a complete vacuum and no bike.

[NEW2elec]

Vinceeherman I think that sounds about right.  These demos are like beta testing over a network of dealers and different conditions.
I also agree with some other posts that this "2020" bike may be rushed out a bit due to HD and Lightning.  I still think it will be the best option of the three but I would expect some bugs early on.  I would also guess 90% of factory production is SRFs at this point so they should be rolling out pretty soon.

Of course they may have put on those heated grips as standard for a reason.

[MrBlc]

To add my 2 cents..
I heard from one of the dealers here that Zero changed the requirements for dealers starting this year.
They are now required to stock a demo bike of all models. That means that if there are 200 dealers worldwide, they now have to supply those 200 dealers before shipping to customers. In addition they will have to divert production capability to supply those dealers with the other models.. Creating even more delay for customers..

Looking at how other manufacturers cater to the internet generation, i agree however that a modicum of information is MUCH more desirable than complete silence. I would rather get updates informing me of delays and expected forecasts than nothing at all..

[NEW2elec]

MrBlc, surly not.  That was the first dealer model but at that time there were only 4 Zero models then they went with the 2 demo models per dealer and that has worked pretty well.
I mean they have the FX FXS the 7.2 S-DS the 14.4 S-DS the SR the DSR and now the SRF.  That would be about about $100k worth of bikes each dealer would have to buy.  Even dropping the smaller battery base models and figuring a big wholesale discount at $60k they would lose dealers left and right.

I hope he heard wrong.

[MrBlc]

He was quite clear unfortunately.. He too used the required value for the package, which is why he said no to them..
I'm uncertain as to how they have solved it here in .no as of right now.. I do know that NO dealer here would be willing to invest that much, but the importer might..
Importer DID display all 4 models at a fair back in march.. That includes the SR/F with the .nl plates.
None of the dealers from that network had any models at the same fair.. so.. could be interesting..
I plan on having a chat with the dealer closest to me once SR/F is available to demo. They are more than 1 hour away, so not really dropping by..

[Yamanatc]

Demo bikes would be included in the floor-plan, and not require full payment on delivery; current interest rates being what they are, this would be a minimal monthly expense for  the Dealer. I for one would be a potential buyer for a demo at a reduced price, and would feel confident that I'm not dropping $20K on an unridden potential lemon. Plenty of opportunities to oversee and pre-test the 'new' bike before loosening the purse strings too.
Sometimes immediate gratification is not worth risking a long term headache, especially with a new release.