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[JaimeC]

https://electrek.co/2019/01/01/tesla-pickup-truck-drivers-supercharger-protest/

[Richard230]

It takes all kinds and apparently all kinds drive pickup trucks.  Once or twice a year I have someone driving a pickup truck try to pass me on the inside of the lane and then try to push me into oncoming traffic. 

[caza]

People feel threatened by EV's, just like they're threatened by all change.

You driving an EV may be your own personal choice and you may not be pushing it on anybody else.

But to them, without you ever saying anything, you're CHALLENGING their decision to get a gas guzzler. You're the "good guy" saving the planet with your ev and they're a "bad person" because they have their truck. EV's existence challenges their own life choices and priorities, and like any toddler, they lash out.

[Fran K]

People feel threatened by EV's, just like they're threatened by all change.

You driving an EV may be your own personal choice and you may not be pushing it on anybody else.

But to them, without you ever saying anything, you're CHALLENGING their decision to get a gas guzzler. You're the "good guy" saving the planet with your ev and they're a "bad person" because they have their truck. EV's existence challenges their own life choices and priorities, and like any toddler, they lash out.

So what is space tourism good guy or bad guy?

The comment section of that article linked in post 1 seem to answer the question in the title here to the point I will not type.  Perhaps it (the article) is a divide the population type of thing.  I have a F150 2013 v8 variable valve timing, traier brake controler integrated into the traction controll, towing for 9900lbs, can carry legally a ton, just the base model with crank windows.

[Evilthor]

Call a local tow company and tell them the charge station owner has a lucrative offer for them

[Doug S]

Part of it, I think, is that the charging stations are generally in prime parking areas. I wish they'd put them at the far end of the parking lot, so people wouldn't be motivated to want to use them. I'll gladly walk a little farther if it helps ensure I can charge when I need to.

But I suspect what these guys are mostly saying is something along the lines of "you're not going to take MY toy away". Just like the rabid gun-nuts (and I own a handgun, so I'm not disparaging most people who own guns), they think if you're not one of them, you're the enemy.

Is "rolling coal" still a thing? Seems like it came and went pretty fast, once they realized it was just an expensive way of hurting nobody but themselves. Once a few of these guys get towed, I'm guessing it will come to an end pretty soon.

Unfortunately, that may not happen very often. Most of the parking lots with charging stations in them are privately owned, and the owners may not want to tow customers away.

[Duncan Zero]

Rolling Coal is still a thing, the outrage died down but it is still going on.

Most of the reason that charging stations are close is due to electrical circuits already being present nearby.

[Doug S]

Most of the reason that charging stations are close is due to electrical circuits already being present nearby.

I thought about that, too, but many shopping centers have lighted signage at the far end of the parking lot, on the street. Perhaps it isn't wired for enough juice for EV charging stations, but the underground conduit is obviously in place, so it shouldn't be too difficult to pull heavier wiring. Oftentimes there's even a "free-floating" building for a bank or restaurant out in the parking lot, separate from the main concourse. I realize moving the chargers AWAY from the center of active is a subtlety that's non-obvious to the shopping center that wants to install charging stations, but it's a learning process and I think it would work out better.

[Richard230]

Most of the reason that charging stations are close is due to electrical circuits already being present nearby.

I thought about that, too, but many shopping centers have lighted signage at the far end of the parking lot, on the street. Perhaps it isn't wired for enough juice for EV charging stations, but the underground conduit is obviously in place, so it shouldn't be too difficult to pull heavier wiring. Oftentimes there's even a "free-floating" building for a bank or restaurant out in the parking lot, separate from the main concourse. I realize moving the chargers AWAY from the center of active is a subtlety that's non-obvious to the shopping center that wants to install charging stations, but it's a learning process and I think it would work out better.

I think that you will find that most city Planning Commissions like the idea of having EV charging parking near the store in order to encourage EV driving. It makes them feel "green". Most of the new stores that I have seen lately seem to have an EV charging station or two in their parking lot - that are not used very often and usually are ICE'ed. The Sprouts grocery store that I frequent used to have two EV charging stations near the front door of the store. They regularly got ICE'ed and a few months ago they were removed and returned to regular parking spaces.

About a year ago a free Level 2 station was installed at my former workplace, next to the motorcycle parking area.  I asked one of the building inspectors if it gets used much. He said that it was only used once, by the City Attorney.  Since then it has just been gathering dust.

And so it goes. 

[DonTom]

It takes all kinds and apparently all kinds drive pickup trucks.  Once or twice a year I have someone driving a pickup truck try to pass me on the inside of the lane and then try to push me into oncoming traffic. 

That has happened to me too, on Hwy 101 in Belmont. Was deliberate for sure with the driver and his passenger laughing. 

People like that are always young and showing off to buddies how "kool" they are. IMO, "Kool" is just another word for "stupid".

AFAIK, that BS mainly only happens in the SF Bay Area. I am glad to be out of that area.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[JaimeC]

It takes all kinds and apparently all kinds drive pickup trucks.  Once or twice a year I have someone driving a pickup truck try to pass me on the inside of the lane and then try to push me into oncoming traffic. 

That has happened to me too, on Hwy 101 in Belmont. Was deliberate for sure with the driver and his passenger laughing. 

People like that are always young and showing off to buddies how "kool" they are. IMO, "Kool" is just another word for "stupid".

AFAIK, that BS mainly only happens in the SF Bay Area. I am glad to be out of that area.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

If you had a helmet cam and was able to record that you could easily charge the son of a bitch with "Attempted Murder" because that is EXACTLY what it was.

[Richard230]

It takes all kinds and apparently all kinds drive pickup trucks.  Once or twice a year I have someone driving a pickup truck try to pass me on the inside of the lane and then try to push me into oncoming traffic. 

That has happened to me too, on Hwy 101 in Belmont. Was deliberate for sure with the driver and his passenger laughing. 

People like that are always young and showing off to buddies how "kool" they are. IMO, "Kool" is just another word for "stupid".

AFAIK, that BS mainly only happens in the SF Bay Area. I am glad to be out of that area.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

If you had a helmet cam and was able to record that you could easily charge the son of a bitch with "Attempted Murder" because that is EXACTLY what it was.

 

No helmet cam, but I once I did have another pickup driver get behind me and block the other pickup driver from trying to tailgate me, which I did appreciate. I agree with your comment, but unless you actually are killed in a traffic accident, the cops don't seem to care all that much about "road rage" incidents, as they happen all the time around here. Almost as much as "distracted driving" and cell phone usage. 

[DonTom]

If you had a helmet cam and was able to record that you could easily charge the son of a bitch with "Attempted Murder" because that is EXACTLY what it was.

Well, when it happened to me, it was before the helmet cams existed. Besides that, I think Richard has it right unless there is an actual crash.

-Don- Auburn, CA

[JaimeC]

If someone pulls a gun on you, that is "Assault with a deadly weapon" whether they pull the trigger or not.  The same applies if someone intentionally uses a four ton vehicle to force you off the road or into oncoming traffic whether you crashed or not.

[DonTom]

If someone pulls a gun on you, that is "Assault with a deadly weapon" whether they pull the trigger or not.  The same applies if someone intentionally uses a four ton vehicle to force you off the road or into oncoming traffic whether you crashed or not.

Sure, but that doesn't mean all laws are enforced. But if I did have a camera and could prove what happened, I would have went straight to the cops.

BTW, this happened near one of my houses near Reno. A mile from my house in Cold Springs Valley.  What gets me is many are calling it an "accident" when it was an rather  obvious murder (of a corrections officer) according to a couple of witnesses.

-Don-  Auburn, CA