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Doug S

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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #405 on: February 26, 2019, 01:45:06 AM »

So nothing particularly earth shattering IMO. A bigger motor, (ostensibly) upgraded electronics all round, incremental (and nice) touches like LED lighting and such.

For me, the things I'm happiest to see are 1) the motor upgrade, 2) the price didn't get bumped by too much, and 3) the motor upgrade. The other updates are all welcome too, especially if they lead to better reliability. I'd especially welcome the cruise control.

My biggest disappointment is that the battery capacity hasn't been bumped. Level 3 charging would be nice too, but I understand the logic on holding off until the infrastructure is better developed. I'm not thrilled that the weight has crept up to 500 pounds for a fairly small bike, but that's still not terribly heavy.

Overall, I think it's a good premium bike for Zero. I do wonder what it means for the future of the SR, though.
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #406 on: February 26, 2019, 01:45:28 AM »

I see that Zero is calling the SR/F a 2020 model, while the Motorcycle.com article claims it is a 2019 model.  My guess is that calling it a 2020 bike will be the official model year.  That is what BMW tends to do at times.  As an example, my 2016 BMW R1200RS was bought by me in May 2015. When introducing a brand new chassis, it appears to be typical for vehicle manufacturers to sometimes jump a year into the future.   ;)

My guess is that the new SR/F platform will start to supersede the old 2013-on chassis when future models are introduced.  It certainly seems like a worthwhile upgrade to the previous chassis, although some of the premium components of the SR/F will likely have to be cut back to keep the price of future models under control.

If you ask me, the SR/F really takes the wind out of the LiveWire's sales. $10K less and it appears to have more premium features. In particular, I do like those Bosch traction control, cornering ABS and cruse control features. Plus, the smart phone system seems pretty complete - although likely more than I could master.  ::)  I must say that I am very impressed with the new model. But it is definitely overkill for my utility and transportation usage.

I also like that it's weight is about 100 pounds less than the Energica models. For me, that would be a big plus.
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #407 on: February 26, 2019, 02:01:50 AM »

Do they use Diginow chargers ... ? They are on top of the battery ...

Whatever chassis they're using per 3kW unit looks thinner than the HK-J factory output that DigiNow uses/adopted.

They're probably built differently, as well, for EMI/EMC regulations specific to the OEM vs aftermarket.
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #408 on: February 26, 2019, 02:04:18 AM »

I also like that it's weight is about 100 pounds less than the Energica models. For me, that would be a big plus.

Looks like the rear wheel is wider than the one on my '17 SR, as well. And faster L2 charging is great (about damn time).
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #409 on: February 26, 2019, 02:35:05 AM »

I also found it interesting that in the Motorcycle.com article there was mention of the drive belt being under a higher tension (than previously, I assume).   ???  You would think that too high a belt tension would place a higher stress on the motor output and wheel bearings. I thought that my 2018 belt tension was already pretty high.  Any higher and you could play a tune on it.   ::)
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #410 on: February 26, 2019, 02:37:05 AM »

Overall, I'm happy with the bike.  The new motor and stability control features are awesome and I'm happy they kept the price to a relatively small premium over the SR.  I wish the weight didn't creep up as high as it did though.  I know I'm in the minority, but I can count the times I've charged my electric bikes at places other than my garage on one hand, therefore, I'd much prefer being able to remove all the heavy on-board charging equipment in order to have a 450 pound bike.  It'd be awesome to me if the Zero bikes had docking station like ports for their on-board chargers, especially for the FX and FXS, but I understand the compromises and that everyone wants onboard charging and more range on the go.
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #411 on: February 26, 2019, 02:39:34 AM »

Someone 'shopped this image together in the FB group. Thought I'd share here!

Just gotta point out that the photoshopped pic on page 14 was pretty good!

I'm excited for the bike, even more to ride one. I think it looks great, and am a big fan of the green color. Curious what their 2020 lineup will be.
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #412 on: February 26, 2019, 03:14:47 AM »

Has anyone seen/heard/read anything in regards to when these will be hitting dealerships?
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #413 on: February 26, 2019, 03:16:22 AM »

I see that Zero is calling the SR/F a 2020 model, while the Motorcycle.com article claims it is a 2019 model.
Could be both at the same time.

For an example, my 2013 Triumph Trophy. It's a 2013 model in the USA but if same bike bought on the same day as I did, but in the UK, it will be a 2012 model. There is no such thing as buying a new 2013 model in 2012 in England.  Not even if the date is the 31th of December as they go by the year purchased, not what we call the model year in the USA.

There is no 2012 TTSE in the USA. But there is in England of the exact same model year of a 2013 in the USA.

There are other confusing things like this also. My 1984 Venture must be registered as a 1983. But it is a 1984 model and most 1983 parts for this bike will not fit. The frame date on this bike is 9/83, but is a 1984 model. But they had a special tax on bikes built in 1984. My 1984 model was NOT subject to this tax because it was built in 1983. Therefore, my 1984 model had to be registered as a 1983. This model is often called by owners the "1983 and a half Yamaha Venture."

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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #414 on: February 26, 2019, 03:16:37 AM »

Has anyone seen/heard/read anything in regards to when these will be hitting dealerships?
Electrek wrote "Deliveries of the SR/F will begin in April and the bike has already entered full production."
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #415 on: February 26, 2019, 03:55:02 AM »

> ... And faster L2 charging is great (about damn time). ...

Um, 3000 watts standard, and 6000 watts upgrade, same as 2018 chargetank.
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #416 on: February 26, 2019, 03:57:00 AM »

Overall, I like it.

I'll probably wait till the bigger battery version is available and I can line up financing.

If the feds would get e-motorcycle incentives for 2019 passed, that would help swing it.

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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #417 on: February 26, 2019, 04:21:16 AM »

> ... And faster L2 charging is great (about damn time). ...

Um, 3000 watts standard, and 6000 watts upgrade, same as 2018 chargetank.

The premium is 6KW + 6KW upgrade though, so that's 12KW.
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #418 on: February 26, 2019, 05:41:12 AM »


The premium is 6KW + 6KW upgrade though, so that's 12KW.

To be delivered into a single J1772 inlet it appears.
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Re: Zero SR/F
« Reply #419 on: February 26, 2019, 06:20:28 AM »

No one noticed the controller is under the battery box. The charger/s are on top as has been noted.
10 custom modes, I would only need 2 max, wet and dry, with dry maxed out on everything.
For me, keeping the storage area is a plus, but can still have 6kw charging. That's great work by zero.
The bike is heavier but they say the heavy items are down low so maybe it doesn't feel heavy?
All in all, it seems zero has addressed many things raised on the forum except one - a faring.
Having a 12V battery gives the "always on" power that some accessories need, like the big discussion on keyless fobs.
If you are not happy with what zero have done then you are just too hard to please.   
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