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[JaimeC]

Back to the security issue:  Some have already pointed out how easy it is for a couple of people to simply lift the bike and toss it into a panel truck to work on the locks/safety systems away from prying eyes.

If you're really serious about theft prevention, the solution of course, is a sturdy lock and chain to lock your motorcycle to an immovable object.  You're going to need a KEY for that lock so what, precisely, have you saved for "convenience??"

[caza]

The question is really how serious you are about anti-theft precautions.

Most people, quite simply, aren't. And your need to be more vigilant about theft is going to depend on your own personality as well as the areas you frequent.

Most of the places I bring my bike I'm not super concerned about theft. Not that it can't happen, but it isn't a common occurrence. So if a fob makes my bike technically easier to steal by a sophisticated spoofer, that doesn't really change much for me. I park my car in the same places and no one has spoofed the fob and stolen it. I'm not locking my car up to a lamp-post with a chain, why should I worry about my bike?

Again, you might be in different areas or just be more nervous about theft in general, ymmv.

[DPsSRnSD]

If you're really serious about theft prevention, the solution of course, is a sturdy lock and chain to lock your motorcycle to an immovable object.  You're going to need a KEY for that lock so what, precisely, have you saved for "convenience??"

I don't chain my bike at work. The motorcycle parking is adjacent to a guard shack occupied by a Gold Wing-riding guard during the day.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm doing this all wrong. The person who does the coolest take-offs I've seen doesn't lock his bike. In one continuous movement he walks up, puts his leg over, rolls back as he hits the starter, changes direction and rides off. Gone in six seconds.

[togo]

> If you're really serious about theft prevention, the solution of course, is a sturdy lock and chain to lock your motorcycle to an immovable object.  ...

That may not be legal on a public street.  I think that may be how I lost my Honda 650 Nighthawk back a decade ago.  Check your local laws before doing this.

[togo]

> ... The person who does the coolest take-offs I've seen doesn't lock his bike. In one continuous movement he walks up, puts his leg over, rolls back as he hits the starter, changes direction and rides off. Gone in six seconds.

I guess you could RFID your thigh, add a reader to the zero. 

[togo]

Fred> I make sure I'll never lose my fob by implanting it in my left hand. Very useful for doors and unlocking my PC. I've not got round to rigging it up so that it works with my Zero yet though.

Will you do just the ignition unlock (fairly easy) or also the steering lock (more involved), Fred?

If you come up with a mechanical lock design, I'd definitely be interested in seeing it.  I'm not ready to do an implanted nfc yet, but a phone proximity unlock would be cool. 

[BamBam]

Friends, this is a motorcycle for pete sake.  If you want a key fob for remote lock, unlocked, starting, alarm etc., then go buy a car.

[JaimeC]

Friends, this is a motorcycle for pete sake.  If you want a key fob for remote lock, unlocked, starting, alarm etc., then go buy a car.

Woot!  Woot!!  What HE said!!!

[GaryArt1]

Friends, this is a motorcycle for pete sake.  If you want a key fob for remote lock, unlocked, starting, alarm etc., then go buy a car.

I can understand your sentiment but let's look at it another way.  What still gets me if the SR/F is rumored to be around $20k plus.  Lets just take $20k.  If I walk into an dealer and say I want to spend $20K on  bike, they are not going to be showing me a basic naked bike.  The bikes I will be looking at has a full fairing, stereo, navigation, traction control, comfortable seats, etc.  So I can see people wanting the modern conveniences like key fobs when they are plunking down #20K.  I would like auto cancelling turn signals so my buddies don't have to keep making fun of me when I leave them on too long.  Is it too much to ask for?  I guess a basic naked electric bike is what we get for the price when we are early adopters. 

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

For the hundredth time:

The battery is at least one third of the list price for all Zero models.

You’re paying for very carefully assembled and QA/QC tested batteries that occupy most of the dry weight and volume of the bike.

Zero sells a much cheaper bike with their own powertrain with the remainder.

[BamBam]

+1.......try finding another electric motorcycle for $11K - $17K with as many features and proven technology as a Zero.  You can't.  It doesn't exist.

[ElectricRiders.net]

Y'all never heard about theft insurance?? 

[Curt]

You’re paying for very carefully assembled and QA/QC tested batteries that occupy most of the dry weight and volume of the bike.

Zero sells a much cheaper bike with their own powertrain with the remainder.

Does Zero charge no margin on batteries? Anyway the higher cost of the bike makes premium features cost a smaller percentage, so it's more justifiable adding them and expecting them, not to the point where they become a distraction.

The maxxed-out F850GS is $16,600 with LCD display/nav/entertainment, ABS, stability control, traction control, dynamic suspension, keyless fob, heated grips, cruise control, 125mph top speed, TPMS, luggage mounts, ...

Not that all of it is needed, but throw us some carrots please. Zero, you have 1 week left to add them.

[Curt]

The person who does the coolest take-offs I've seen doesn't lock his bike. In one continuous movement he walks up, puts his leg over, rolls back as he hits the starter, changes direction and rides off. Gone in six seconds.

Yes, THAT is what I want! Also, without the interminable 3-second delay between Kick Stand Up and forward motion.

[Curt]

This guy added keyless fob to his Zero S. He even went further so that the luggage compartment remains unlocked whenever he's near.



He had to add a 12V accessory battery. But he echoes my sentiments at 2:45.