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[MrDude_1]

So how to obtain an accurate real-world measurement if you need one?  What I would do is to place a zip-tie around the sliding fork tube at the top of the slider then slam on the brakes to see where the zip-tie ends up. That will tell you the maximum movement of the front wheel under real world riding conditions. Then remove the springs and slide the wheel upward until the sliding tube reaches the location of the zip-tie and see where it ends up in relation to the charger box. If the tire does not hit the box then you are home free.  From what I see in the video, it looks to me that the tire will not move far enough upward to hit the charger - but I could be wrong and the clearance really needs to be verified.

I also used Zip tie and it worked well so far from now the zip tie only go as low as 1.25" from the bottom of the fork piston.

I have riden my Zero with my wife and together we never had the wheel or fender hitting the 4th charger yet. that is a great new!!

btw you also have to take account that the fork bend a little bit too when braking so if you hit a bump or a hole while braking these conditions are the most probable where you could hit the charger with the wheel, but it did not hapenend yet after 1200km of run with it.

I will install 2 little 60mm square fan on the heatsink upper area as it get warm faster than the pan. i have found great fan rated IP68K for debrit and water ingress certification on digikey at 14$ each, however they require 24V.. so i will use a little 2$ chineese Aliexpress dc-dc converter to boost the voltage from 12 to 24Vdc.

If some are interested here is the Digikey part number: P19879-ND
https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/nmb-technologies-corporation/06025VA-24Q-CA-00/P19879-ND/6204941

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I wonder how fast the wind will spin that fan when you're at highway speed...

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

Regarding elimination or reduction of fenders, I want to emphasize just how damn painful it is to be struck by a rock at full highway speed, and that exposing equipment to these risks needs to account for the smaller wires involved and any equipment attached to them.

The pain I experience from rocks, in the shins or on the hands, is not a theoretical distance memory, but an ongoing regular occurrence.

Motorcycling is not a clean-room effort. We're riding in adverse conditions by definition. We cannot afford plans made with no account for statistically likely failure modes.

[MrDude_1]

Regarding elimination or reduction of fenders, I want to emphasize just how damn painful it is to be struck by a rock at full highway speed, and that exposing equipment to these risks needs to account for the smaller wires involved and any equipment attached to them.

The pain I experience from rocks, in the shins or on the hands, is not a theoretical distance memory, but an ongoing regular occurrence.

Motorcycling is not a clean-room effort. We're riding in adverse conditions by definition. We cannot afford plans made with no account for statistically likely failure modes.

uhh...Wear your gear and you should get no pain?
I am going way faster than you and gravel doesnt hurt when it hits my gear.

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

Regarding elimination or reduction of fenders, I want to emphasize just how damn painful it is to be struck by a rock at full highway speed, and that exposing equipment to these risks needs to account for the smaller wires involved and any equipment attached to them.

The pain I experience from rocks, in the shins or on the hands, is not a theoretical distance memory, but an ongoing regular occurrence.

Motorcycling is not a clean-room effort. We're riding in adverse conditions by definition. We cannot afford plans made with no account for statistically likely failure modes.

uhh...Wear your gear and you should get no pain?
I am going way faster than you and gravel doesnt hurt when it hits my gear.

First, the point isn't to highlight the pain; the point is to clarify the risk exposure of a charger's installation arrangement.

I'm talking about things I've never even seen but hammered my shins and hands hard enough to make me wince in traffic and get a small adrenaline rush. Not just kicked up gravel. And yes that's through my street gear, which isn't armored to the hilt like my offroad/performance gear, but again it's not the point.

[dennis-NL]

Back on topic for the Diginow 2.5 (bellypan version).
3.3 6.6 9.9 kW are all possible in the new bellypan.
Any update on production of the pan itself?
Is it now completely ready and can be fitted at any 2013-2018 frame?
When is it ready to be send? Or is it allready?

[MVetter]

We had the pans modified to fit all models because we didn't realize they moved one of the 'ribs' that goes under the frame on the 2017 models. The pans are at the metal platers right now and I am scheduling their pickup on Monday for a Tuesday delivery. Gotta call trucking companies and see who is willing to be reasonable.

[DanielCoffey]

I will be in the queue for one of the next v2.5 units when they (and their belly pans) hit the UK and I wondered... does the v2.5 DigiNow have an option to schedule a charge?

I am not on a dual rate tariff but as a courtesy to our electricity supplier I would like to schedule my Daily charges to take place at night.

[Erasmo]

I see a solution for that, get pv and charge during the day

[DanielCoffey]

Sadly not an option where we are... at least not without sticking the panels on a ground mount in the middle of the garden. Our roof runs north-south, the morning sun is shadowed by a neighboring house, the midday sun is shadowed by large trees to the south and only the evening view is open but it is our principal view.

So, any idea if the DigiNow app allows scheduled charging yet?

[Erasmo]

Solar carport/serre perhaps?

But you could also just put a decent timer on your outlet.

[DanielCoffey]

A suitable timer would work while I had the bike on the 3-pin 1.3kW standard charger but not when I have the DigiNow plugged into the Pod Point 7kW wall charger.

[dennis-NL]

A suitable timer would work while I had the bike on the 3-pin 1.3kW standard charger but not when I have the DigiNow plugged into the Pod Point 7kW wall charger.

You can lower Diginow 2.5 with app (is it?) , so put it on 1.3kW. For the night no problem, you sleep. And 1.3kW charging will not hurt the net also, so just plug in without timer.

[togo]

A suitable timer would work while I had the bike on the 3-pin 1.3kW standard charger but not when I have the DigiNow plugged into the Pod Point 7kW wall charger.

You can lower Diginow 2.5 with app (is it?) , so put it on 1.3kW. For the night no problem, you sleep. And 1.3kW charging will not hurt the net also, so just plug in without timer.

I don't think it saves that setting, I think it is a "this session" setting.  That said, it should dial itself down to 1.3kW when run on 120VAC (i.e. if functions as a replacement for the onboard factory charger when plugged into North American household voltage).  Why charge at 7kW overnight?

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

With DigiNow's permission, I've published some documentation of the v2.5 protocol and linked to a Google Doc I've been maintaining for my own sake. Contributions are invited, especially for installation.

https://zeromanual.com/index.php/DigiNow/Super_Charger_V2.5

[DanielCoffey]

@togo Why charge at 7kW overnight?

Because I will be using a single 3.3kW DigiNow unit, because I will have a wall unit supplying up to 7kW and it has been mentioned on other EV forums that higher charge rates compared to the granny cable reduces heat loss and the overhead for running the system for a long period is reduced.

Thanks for the updated manual, Brian. I don't see any reference to Scheduled Charging in it so I will assume no schedule is possible unless someone comes forward to correct me.

At the moment my electricity provider does not offer a cost-effective charging tariff for a small EV but it is not impossible that in the future a dis-incentive for charging at peak time may be implemented. I may make a suggestion to Brandon and crew that a timer is a useful addition for a future version of the charger since in the UK it is considered that the vehicle will set charging schedules rather than the wall unit which merely supplies the requested power.