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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2018, 08:57:56 PM »

MVetter..........thank you very much for the information.  This makes a lot more sense to me now.

Now how about some pricing information or is that something that should be discussed directly between the customer and Diginow?
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2018, 12:06:40 AM »

For anyone in Europe:

I've ordered a set of 3 chargers (v. 2.5) in a bottom pan from http://englishelectricmotorco.com/

So far, great communication with them. I'll report back once I get started on the install.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2018, 02:57:38 AM »

I'm very glad to hear Alec is taking good care of you, Jorg.

Also FYI the part about wall charging and adapters and chargers tied together is specifically regarding US charger setups. The Europeans actually have it much, much easier with their 240V power grid and Mennekes plugs. It's actually a little annoying how much better it is there. Oh well.

As far as pricing, I generally just send out individual quotes with shipping and the other options people request but I'm happy to post some general prices here for the v2.5 setups:

SuperCharger v2.5 3.3kW one unit in the pan = $2035 + shipping
SuperCharger v2.5 6.6kW dual units in the pan = $2425 + shipping
SuperCharger v2.5 9.9kW triple units in the pan = $3435 + shipping

SuperCharger v2.5 3.3kW one unit bare (for FXS owners) = $1735 + shipping

The box is ~24"x14"x13" and with 3 chargers weighs ~43 lbs. With ground shipping and insurance this generally doesn't go over $70 for continental US. Unfortunately this is not true of other countries where I've seen quotes as high as $700 to New Zealand, $500 or so to Europe; it's crazy. US Postal Service offers DRAMATICALLY cheaper shipping but they will not insure for a value over $650. I cannot risk that on a $3000+ order, so that's why we're hoping to work with Euro distributors who can just buy them from us in bulk and then ship over Europe for much more reasonable amounts.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2018, 07:45:27 AM »

I think we were installing the special switch in yours so you won't have to fuss with the app. But we're only doing the switch for a select few because it's extra work and time is precious.

Yes I did pay extra for that special switch. I primarily charge at home or at work where there is only 110v. I wanted the Diginow so I can start riding further distances when I want to but like I said most of my charging will be 110v. Brandon and Morgan gave me that option which I love bc hate to open the app every time I need to charge.
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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2018, 05:22:51 PM »

Turns out a lot of people want the 6.6kW setup where both chargers are tied into the same J1772 inlet. Plugging that into the wall will definitely trip your breaker. Crap. Oh, I know, what if we just have the customer issue a Bluetooth command to throttle the chargers' rate  so it won't trip the breaker? That works!

And that was more or less Brandon's thought process.


A nicer option that I hope will exist in a future revision is to detect the input voltage and if it is less than 135v or so, have the default total amp draw closer to 15A. That would mean you could directly plug it into a standard 110v outlet and by default it would not exceed the maximum standard rate. You could then change it in the app afterward as needed... even nicer, make the switch between the two adjustable for trigger AC voltages and amp rates...
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2018, 07:56:27 PM »

Turns out a lot of people want the 6.6kW setup where both chargers are tied into the same J1772 inlet. Plugging that into the wall will definitely trip your breaker. Crap. Oh, I know, what if we just have the customer issue a Bluetooth command to throttle the chargers' rate  so it won't trip the breaker? That works!

And that was more or less Brandon's thought process.

That may be the best reason I've seen for the dual-J1772 setup. Not only could you use it at recharging stations to get 10kW (on the rare occasion two outlets are available and not tied to a single breaker), if you set up the 110 input to use the single charger, you wouldn't have to monkey around with anything. Just plug it in and walk away.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2018, 09:32:28 PM »

I'm very glad to hear Alec is taking good care of you, Jorg.

Also FYI the part about wall charging and adapters and chargers tied together is specifically regarding US charger setups. The Europeans actually have it much, much easier with their 240V power grid and Mennekes plugs. It's actually a little annoying how much better it is there. Oh well.

As far as pricing, I generally just send out individual quotes with shipping and the other options people request but I'm happy to post some general prices here for the v2.5 setups:

SuperCharger v2.5 3.3kW one unit in the pan = $2035 + shipping
SuperCharger v2.5 6.6kW dual units in the pan = $2425 + shipping
SuperCharger v2.5 9.9kW triple units in the pan = $3435 + shipping

SuperCharger v2.5 3.3kW one unit bare (for FXS owners) = $1735 + shipping

The box is ~24"x14"x13" and with 3 chargers weighs ~43 lbs. With ground shipping and insurance this generally doesn't go over $70 for continental US. Unfortunately this is not true of other countries where I've seen quotes as high as $700 to New Zealand, $500 or so to Europe; it's crazy. US Postal Service offers DRAMATICALLY cheaper shipping but they will not insure for a value over $650. I cannot risk that on a $3000+ order, so that's why we're hoping to work with Euro distributors who can just buy them from us in bulk and then ship over Europe for much more reasonable amounts.
For that price I would just fly over with a few suitcases full of them and make a short vacation of it.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2018, 03:02:39 AM »

Hmm, Morgan, now I'm thinking I also want a new pan. Is it "easy" to modify for use with the Zero drop bars?
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2018, 06:02:43 AM »

For that price I would just fly over with a few suitcases full of them and make a short vacation of it.

I'll make fajitas!

Hmm, Morgan, now I'm thinking I also want a new pan. Is it "easy" to modify for use with the Zero drop bars?
I actually haven't put any new pans on bikes with drop bars but considering the pans mount to the exact same holes the stock belly pans mount to I don't foresee a problem.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2018, 01:40:28 PM »

Question:
Can i just plug in on a normal outlet (Europe 230V 10A, or seldom 16A) and the charger figures that out (like i did now, with no additional effort)? Or do i have to limit power via app every time i charge at home (95%) or only when i need more power via Type2-charging or other 16/32A plugs?
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Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2018, 05:06:24 PM »

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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2018, 03:01:08 AM »

Question:
Can i just plug in on a normal outlet (Europe 230V 10A, or seldom 16A) and the charger figures that out (like i did now, with no additional effort)? Or do i have to limit power via app every time i charge at home (95%) or only when i need more power via Type2-charging or other 16/32A plugs?
Just upgrade your normal outlet to 16A [emoji16]
I just did that. Actually 3 phase. So, 11,1kW charging at home [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]
Now my superchargers need to arrive...
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2018, 07:20:18 PM »

Question:
Can i just plug in on a normal outlet (Europe 230V 10A, or seldom 16A) and the charger figures that out (like i did now, with no additional effort)? Or do i have to limit power via app every time i charge at home (95%) or only when i need more power via Type2-charging or other 16/32A plugs?

The reply I got to that question was:

"The units will take what ever the circuit will provide without busting the fuse but the new firmware currently being revised will allow you to control current draw also."
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2018, 06:45:30 PM »

For a US version of a 3 unit setup I understand that there are 2 J inlets, with one J inlet powering 2 connected SCV2 units and the other J inlet powering the third SCV2.

Do you have an adapter that allows a single Tesla Destination charger to power all 3 SCV2 units?
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« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2018, 11:13:22 AM »

Yes, that's easy to do. We don't *like* to do it because we've had too many customers put a Tesla --> J adapter on and then plug into a J station with all 3 chargers, forgetting to turn them down, and then, as Brandon puts it, "blow up the station".

So while it is easy to do we generally don't offer it because we don't want to destroy the J station infrastructure.
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