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Author Topic: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!  (Read 31019 times)

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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #210 on: October 06, 2018, 03:12:58 PM »

I’m sorry but I do have the 2.5 version and I do not have. Powertank. I posted here because I thought it had to do with why it was no luck Negri charged my bike but now it seems to be more than that.
Charging fuse(s) are logically as fast blow fuses (values vary by model and year, say 50A? 100A?) inline with the bike wiring harness well protected in heatshrink and would be difficult to access directly. Replaceable with mail order parts however just a bit of a pig to service.

What you should measure to see if the AUX fuse is intact is bike main voltage on the aux connector anytime the ZForce pack contactor is engaged (bike on, wait for click). This can be done with any voltmeter and some care with your hands to avoid a high voltage shock.

If the charge fuse popped then it's probably easier and cheaper to build your own secondary fused charging harness for connection to the motor controller terminals. Otherwise if charge enable signal was damaged to/at MBB then you can still get energy into the battery, the bike will have to stay on and not timeout while charging, which is an issue that some owners have encountered - annoying and difficult to fully remedy but can still make the bike usable again.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #211 on: October 07, 2018, 02:01:39 AM »

Although what I propose is very much North America-centric, it would allow for L2 charging with access to only standard North America 110v outlets.  You misunderstand my motive, having a single C20 line would require connecting to a 220v single outlet backed by a 220v single breaker, a rarity or only role-specific outlet in most US households.  With the unit I reference in my previous comment, it's possible to find two standard purpose outlets and merge them into a single 220v power source to do L2 charging.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #212 on: October 07, 2018, 05:21:24 PM »

...With the unit I reference in my previous comment, it's possible to find two standard purpose outlets and merge them into a single 220v power source to do L2 charging.
Have seen and used one such unit at Zero HQ. We're still talking 3kW not much more (15A@240Vac)
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #213 on: October 08, 2018, 10:18:21 AM »

Indeed, 3x speed charging is still worth something, especially if the day-to-day use is made easy for the end user.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #214 on: October 08, 2018, 03:33:31 PM »

Considering all the charging locations i have accessible to me per today is Type2 based, i would really like to see the DigiNow system support the following alternatives:
- Reading the pilotsignal and adjust amperage accordingly
- Support up to 230VAC/32A 1 Phase
- Support up to 400VAC/32A 3 Phase
All based on one Type2 connector.

If this is possible, i am very much interested in buying this setup.
I would be flexible on the 400VAC/32A if that one is a bit harder to do, but it would make it possible to do longer trips for me as it would support using public semi-fast chargers.
Where i am located there's a very good infrastructure of these types of chargers..
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #215 on: October 08, 2018, 11:10:58 PM »

Although what I propose is very much North America-centric, it would allow for L2 charging with access to only standard North America 110v outlets.  You misunderstand my motive, having a single C20 line would require connecting to a 220v single outlet backed by a 220v single breaker, a rarity or only role-specific outlet in most US households.  With the unit I reference in my previous comment, it's possible to find two standard purpose outlets and merge them into a single 220v power source to do L2 charging.

You'd also need to make sure the two 110v outlets were on different circuits.  Worth doing for repetitive future chargers, I guess, but complicated for casual charging.
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« Reply #216 on: October 09, 2018, 08:09:28 AM »

Correct, but the device permits doing this through simple trial and error without risk of damage.
That's the point of it.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #217 on: October 12, 2018, 10:42:07 PM »

Sadly Zero dealers in the Netherlands still getting negative advise on Diginow: 
my dealer was getting told because Diginow is not communicating with BMS.....

So Zero Netherlands at least isn't updated at v2.5 it seems 😥
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #218 on: October 13, 2018, 09:58:05 PM »

Sadly Zero dealers in the Netherlands still getting negative advise on Diginow: 
my dealer was getting told because Diginow is not communicating with BMS.....

So Zero Netherlands at least isn't updated at v2.5 it seems 😥

Meanwhile in Israel I was told that the dealer is putting in an order for DigiNow chargers, and we're usually way behind the rest of the world on adoption of new technology (even if we developed some of it  ;D)
So I think you guys should be getting them soon.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #219 on: October 23, 2018, 06:47:51 PM »

Too bad, extra delay at customs USA for the batch of Diginows V2.5 going to UK dealer or so.
Patience patience patience.
For Europe no information on a discount, in America it was announced I believe? (because of the long waiting first buyers).
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #220 on: October 27, 2018, 03:41:39 AM »

Sadly Zero dealers in the Netherlands still getting negative advise on Diginow: 
my dealer was getting told because Diginow is not communicating with BMS.....

So Zero Netherlands at least isn't updated at v2.5 it seems 😥

Meanwhile in Israel I was told that the dealer is putting in an order for DigiNow chargers, and we're usually way behind the rest of the world on adoption of new technology (even if we developed some of it  ;D)
So I think you guys should be getting them soon.
Hi,
I'm also in Israel, but unlikely to buy one until the range greatly improves and there are public fast chargers (basically, I can do a full 500-600km day trip with 1-2 charge sessions in the middle).
Diginow here in Israel sounds really surprising and interesting, because we currently have no public chargers...
Where does Mark (the local importer & dealer) expect owners to use the Diginows here, except  at home? At what kW levels? Has he mentioned pricing?
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #221 on: October 31, 2018, 04:39:27 AM »

Sadly Zero dealers in the Netherlands still getting negative advise on Diginow: 
my dealer was getting told because Diginow is not communicating with BMS.....

So Zero Netherlands at least isn't updated at v2.5 it seems 😥

Meanwhile in Israel I was told that the dealer is putting in an order for DigiNow chargers, and we're usually way behind the rest of the world on adoption of new technology (even if we developed some of it  ;D)
So I think you guys should be getting them soon.
Hi,
I'm also in Israel, but unlikely to buy one until the range greatly improves and there are public fast chargers (basically, I can do a full 500-600km day trip with 1-2 charge sessions in the middle).
Diginow here in Israel sounds really surprising and interesting, because we currently have no public chargers...
Where does Mark (the local importer & dealer) expect owners to use the Diginows here, except  at home? At what kW levels? Has he mentioned pricing?

Actually, there are quite a few...
Take a look at the PlugShare app.

He hasn't said anything about prices, though.

Hint: I spoke to Brandon from DigiNow, and he said we can use the common tri-phase "תלת פאזי" with an adaptor :)
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #222 on: October 31, 2018, 05:20:03 AM »

You know what might be really slick?

The new belly pan + two chargers + one of these: http://www.quick220.com/220_catalog/voltage-converters.html

Then, provide a means of connecting and intelligently sensing which combination to use:

1. 120v service via one cord, maxing out at 1200w

2. 220v service via two cords, maxing out at 3.3kw

3. 220v service via J1772, maxing out at 6.6(7.2?)kw

I was thinking two C14s,  perhaps with the second C14 fitted with a push-down microswitch at its rear wall that would trigger a contactor to switch the line from the first C14 from the first charger to the 220v charger box.

Any ideas?

Interesting device.  The trick would be to find two 110vac that you know to be on different breakers.

I've been running C19/C20 since they handle more amps than C13/C14 for my inlets.  I have a couple of J-plug to 3-head, and Tesla to 3-head, NEMA 14-50 to 3-head, which let me run one or two or three bricks off each power source available pretty flexibly.

I'm switching to a smaller solution, I'll report here it's tested.
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #223 on: October 31, 2018, 07:23:20 AM »

...I've been running C19/C20 since they handle more amps than C13/C14 for my inlets...
Same amps, different voltage convention 125/250 vs 250? I do not think the connectors care it would depend on the plastics and expected heat rise until they melt and fall apart what amps?
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Re: Diginow Supercharger 2.5!!
« Reply #224 on: October 31, 2018, 08:57:26 AM »

...I've been running C19/C20 since they handle more amps than C13/C14 for my inlets...
Same amps, different voltage convention 125/250 vs 250? I do not think the connectors care it would depend on the plastics and expected heat rise until they melt and fall apart what amps?
According to this -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320 , only put 10 amps through a C13/C14 and 16 amps through a C19/C20.
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