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[NEW2elec]

Hi,

I'm joining the queue

Riding motorcycles for the last 20 years ( Ducati SF1098, Panigale...., speed triples, Nine T...)  Actually i ve a FTR 1200 and a Multistrada V4S. I made the jump to EV car 3 years ago with Tesla but as most "petrolheads" i thought a bike couldn't be fun and electric...
Out of curiosity i made the mistake to try a Zero SR/F and an Energica.... Ordered a Ribelle RS five minutes later 

Still 2 months to wait now 

That really says alot from someone coming from some very high end performance bikes.  Sounds like you'll be ready for Spring.

[Valen]

Actually i think that the discussion between switching or not is polluted by the fanboys of both side.

The main argument of "petroheads" are:
- Range: it was true, it s not so true anymore. The lastest electric bikes are roughly the same range of their ICE counterparts. Of course, it's doesn't go as far as a BMW GS but neither do a Streetfighter.
- Price: it's expensive but the gap isn't that huge now and is around 5k for about the same level of performance. It's a lot of money but it's not out of the market (especially if you consider that the save 2k for the exhaust)
- weight: it's true it s 50-70 kg too fat, but it has more torque so as always there's tradeoffs.
- performance: even if the torque is huge, top speed is limited. Indeed but what do i use most...

All in all, the main issue is that people compare EV to ICE with the same "scope". The feeling and fun that you get with an EV isn't exactly the same as the one you get with an ICE.
Is it better? no
Is it worse? no

EV and ICE have their pro and cons, they re different but enjoyable in their own ways.

[DonTom]

EV and ICE have their pro and cons, they re different but enjoyable in their own ways.

We can say the same when we compare ICE cars to other ICE cars models  or EVs to other EV models.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[4zero6]

Hello Everyone!! I'm a huge fan of my 15DS. It is my 5th bike over 17 years. I believe that electric transportation is the future. I have 12,000 miles so far in Montana. All charged off of my home solar array. I'm currently having problems with a contactor error. I'm here to find help and resources to repair this issue myself. Thank you for including me in the discussion! Please reach out if you can help me diagnose the cause of errors 48 and 49!

[Richard230]

Hello Everyone!! I'm a huge fan of my 15DS. It is my 5th bike over 17 years. I believe that electric transportation is the future. I have 12,000 miles so far in Montana. All charged off of my home solar array. I'm currently having problems with a contactor error. I'm here to find help and resources to repair this issue myself. Thank you for including me in the discussion! Please reach out if you can help me diagnose the cause of errors 48 and 49!

You might want to duplicate your question in the Zero 2013+ forum. It is more likely to be seen there.

[aquaplanning]

Hi all, I have been enjoying the forum for a while and now it's time to register.

I drive a 2018 DSR with power tank. Earlier bikes: Honda CX400, NTV640, XLV750R, XL500 and BMW Funduro.

Other electric news: waiting for my Toyota E-proace to arrive, and want to replace my tired old boats diesel for something better.
House & workshed is powered by air to water heatpumps, heatpipes + 60 350W solar panels, all installed DIY.

The DSR is still my favorite bike, but I need to build a new charger as the onboard charger is toast. Will check the forum for more information. Current plan is three TC 1800 Watt chargers, with a EV type 2 cable. But first I need a bit more information, or I might end up writing a how-not-to-do-it. 

Daytime job: boating instructor + technical trainer for brands in the leisure marine service.

[Richard230]

Hi all, I have been enjoying the forum for a while and now it's time to register.

I drive a 2018 DSR with power tank. Earlier bikes: Honda CX400, NTV640, XLV750R, XL500 and BMW Funduro.

Other electric news: waiting for my Toyota E-proace to arrive, and want to replace my tired old boats diesel for something better.
House & workshed is powered by air to water heatpumps, heatpipes + 60 350W solar panels, all installed DIY.

The DSR is still my favorite bike, but I need to build a new charger as the onboard charger is toast. Will check the forum for more information. Current plan is three TC 1800 Watt chargers, with a EV type 2 cable. But first I need a bit more information, or I might end up writing a how-not-to-do-it. 

Daytime job: boating instructor + technical trainer for brands in the leisure marine service.

Welcome to the forum, aquaplanning.

The OBC died on my 2018 S with PT. Here is a link to my write-up describing how I replaced it with a new and improved (I hope) version: 
https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=10369.msg94690#msg94690

[Sklith]

I'm not new to this forum but I never posted in this thread. I live in the Atlanta area, and I ride an Energica Ego I bought in 2019. Typically I ride my bike for commuting to work and leisure trips to some mountains near me but I do plan on doing a track day soon.

[NEW2elec]

If I end up getting the Damon I certainly want to go back up to the north GA mountains for one of my big rides.
Maybe meet up next year for a Dahlonega golden road ride.

[Slartybartfarst]

Hi after 50 years of ICE bikes and engineering in bie auto world wide testing ICE I get hooked by Zero DSR, SRF 14.3 then current bike Zero SRF 15.6. I like the optimal balance weight/power also silence of belt and responsiveness of EV power trains.
I make up my own heated seats, I miss the ICE heat on cold UK mornings but the silence of the bike means Im out as the sun rises with no one around or woken up.
Having owned both 14.3 kWh and 15.6 kWh SRFs I reckon the bigger battery gets you plus 15% range.
Ill post the component breakdown and do a build/fit sequence for the SRF.
Has anyone out there paid for the upgrade to 17kWh and any stats of what it gets you in extra % ?

[princec]

17kWh is highly tempting..... I reckon it'd give you a +10%  range on top of your +15%. Which in my case would be another 25 miles or so to 125... nice.

Cas

(14.4 SR/F)

[DonTom]

Has anyone out there paid for the upgrade to 17kWh and any stats of what it gets you in extra % ?

What works to a reasonable degree is move the max battery decimal point to the right by one and that is your easy riding miles.  IOW, a 14.7 KW Zero battery will give you around 147 miles of easy riding off the freeway.


From there, every time you double the speed expect half the range.


IOW, if you're going far and in a big hurry, drive very slowly. You cannot make up for the charge times with speed, not even charging with 12 KW.


The miles per KW will always be the same per KWH of battery at the same speeds, wind &  hills, temps, etc.  IOW, twice the KWH battery will give exactly double the range (not counting the negligible difference the battery weight makes).


So on any bike, figure your miles per KWH at any given speed and from there, you can see the increased range a larger battery will give.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Slartybartfarst]

Don thanks for the rough guide on distance. Your right I need to get the average W/mile figure over the next few months  I never really paid so much attention to my Tesla Model S P85  thats now done 125,000 miles, the lifetime average is 345 W/mile that gives me 234 miles range with a 10 miles "reserve" (easy numbers to remember) but I can extend that 10% with restrained driving.

I was reckoning on 90 miles range on the SRF but as you say ride slow, I get great satisfaction out of setting out on a full "tank" and returning on near empty so start off slow and hyper mile (drafting trucks on any highway) speeding up on the return.

Yesterday was a 98 mile route and I returned with 10 miles left in the tank, good slow start and hooning on the return. I would be happy if the new SRF 15.6 matched my old DSR 14.3 range but initial impressions are the new bike is about 5% better. Going t be a good summer.

[Black Sky]

Hello, new here…user name is black sky. I am a hare scramble race promoter in NY and also like in the Florida keys and Virgin Islands part of the year.
   We have a dozen gas bikes…motocross,woods bikes and adventure bikes but in the last year have bought 2 electric motion escape R 2022s as well as a new 2022 KTM ERide electric, I also have a Stark on order for September or October depending on shipping.
   We absolutely love our electric bikes…. I want to ride them twice as much as the gas bikes because they are so much fun and low maintenance.
 Definitely looking forward to meeting everyone and sharing what knowledge we have learned as well as learning all we can from other members. As a large race promoter I am very excited to see how electric will change our wonderful sport for the better….the lack of noise should open up so many new possibilities in riding areas. We have found that in the Florida keys…we can go everywhere….simply wonderful. Thank you for your time,rob

[bike]

hello from mallorca !!
DS 2019
FX 2021
X 2009