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[havec]

Just what I wanted hear. Thanks.  I've done some long steep descents coming down Mt Shasta on gravelly Forest Service Roads on my TW200. Nice to be able to have have a lot of engine braking and being able to go nice and slow. 

Chris -  McCloud CA.

[TheRan]

Something to note with the Zero is you have two regen settings that can be adjusted independently (in the custom mode, in the Eco and Sport modes they have preset but different values). You have coasting regen which is applied when the throttle is all the way forward and acts like engine braking on a gas bike, then you have braking regen which is applied when either brake switch is activated (so you can press lightly on either lever to regen brake but without using the mechanical brakes). There is also a point in the throttle rotation where there is both no driving force nor any coasting regen which allows you to coast with minimal resistance.

[Crissa]

Yeah, I usually run with my braking regen set middling so I can use it going down hills without stopping

Don has his set high on his throttle so he can feather it with the throttle, which I find too troublesome so far.  But I'be only been riding a motorcycle since August so my skill is pretty low.

Lots of ways to dial a Zero into your style of riding!

-Crissa

[havec]

This is a great forum!  Sure sounds like one has a tremendous amount of control over the power delivery and regenerative braking on these bikes.  Only thing I'm worried is that FX has 3 times the HP and 7 times the torque of my TW200.  Hope I can learn to feather the throttle so the bike doesn't take off without me. The 2 bikes weigh almost exactly the same and are the same color. The TW has fatter tires. Going to be an interesting learning curve. I doubt I'll ever go into sports mode.  Still waiting for the price from MotoCorsa. I know I'm going to pay full factory list.  I just don't want to be dinged for an additional mark up.  The EV rebate helps. Well on my way to filling my garage with toys. 

[TheRan]

Is it the beige sort of colour? That's what my DS is and I've seen the TW200 and some other Yamahas in a similar colour. I wasn't too sure on it at first but it grew on me, had a few people tell me they like it too. I was a bit worried about riding off road as well at first but it's actually really controllable, much easier to ride slowly compared to a gas bike as you don't have to rev it and slip the clutch loads. I keep it in my custom mode with 60% torque as even that will easily break traction if you wanted so I doubt sport mode could really be fully utilised off road without some rather aggressive tyres.

[Crissa]

You can change the torque from nearly nothing to all of it in the software.

Just start out in Eco and then slowly ramp up when it's safe to do so.  Electrics are much more consistent and Zeros are super well-behaved.

-Crissa

[havec]

My 2019 TW is beige.  That's where the similarities end.  The TW is the basically the same bike as when it first came out in 1987 except for a disc brake and a starter motor. I'll post a photo of them side by side when I get the 0FX.
Thanks for alleviating my concerns about purchasing such a powerful bike.  I ride mainly to get out and explore.  Not disturbing the wildlife and being able to hear was too tempting. Mt Shasta has been heavily logged for well over a century so the roads are endless.  It's fun to try and navigate to various points of interest.  I usually end up turning around before I get lost and going back home to download the GPX file to see where I was and where I should have turned. There are paved forest service roads that you can drive a 100 mile loop and see only 3 or 4 other vehicles.  I love the Medicine Lake area which is a huge shield volcano with points of interest like Little Glass Mountain that is pretty much pure obsidian.  The view from Little Mount Hoffman is well worth ride or drive.

[Crissa]

Yeah, my S is my first motorcycle!  I've only been riding since August, finished my course (after failing once!) in January.  I've ridden 3k miles, tho winter and the Coronavirus puts a crimp in it, it has replaced about half of my trips.

They're very well behaved As long as you remember it'll do what you ask without delay, and remember to use the mode setting, you'll be fine.  Overconfidence is the enemy, I think, coming from a gas bike.

-Crissa

[havec]

You've done a lot riding in a short time.  I only have 500 miles on my 2019 t-dub mainly because Shasta is a vacation home. Haven't taken a spill yet other than getting stuck in soft rut. Plenty of blood from mountain bike riding on Mount Tamalpais in Marin County though. Including a slow-mo over the handle bars face plant that resulted in an ambulance ride. I was screwing around and for some stupid reason I decided to ride down this little bump which had a  wheel stopping rut at the bottom that I didn't see. Add don't do stupid sh*t to the list.  The ground is less than a second away. Hope to hear from the dealer tomorrow.  He has a $2500 down payment.  I am very happy to be buying something actually made within a 100 miles of where I live.  I guess most of the parts come from all over.  Take care and good luck to all of us.

-Chris

[Crissa]

Good luck, Chris!

I used the bike to replace some of my mountain bike riding (motorcycle is much faster and probably safer on these mountain roads!) and about half of my driving.

And with our red-flag and weird weather and whatnot... Well, the bike has just been superior to something that needs gas and gets stuck in queue at the lights.

-Crissa

[Richard230]

I use my Zero, loaded with luggage carrying options, to replace my car for almost all of my local travel.

[Crissa]

Yeah, I can carry just about anything short of flats of soda and other such big boxes.

-Crissa

[Richard230]

Yeah, I can carry just about anything short of flats of soda and other such big boxes.

-Crissa

Big boxes of toilet paper are tough to carry too.    Motorcycles are not good vehicles for Costco shopping. 

[havec]

My bike is being uncrated in Portland.  I got the dealer to give me the out the door price on the 2020 0FX.  I'm hoping that Crissa of someone else can help me out with negotiating the price.  I know I'm going to pay the full factory $10,995 list.  The OOD price is $15,100 including $1495 Aegis Service Contract that I would never buy.  So minus Aegis OOD is $13,606.43. They want to hit me a $1299 freight charge which looks to me to be padded. Out of state sales tax and est. CA sales tax is $891+$55.  Title/license/registration and doc prep is $251+115. So it looks like I'm paying $13.606.  (I'm wondering if the est $55 tax might be sales tax on the Aegis service contract.)  Is a $1299 freight charge padded?  i'm wondering if i can get them to reduce the freight charge down to something closer to a grand.     At least they aren't trying to hit me with a dealer's prep charge.

[DonTom]

I use my Zero, loaded with luggage carrying options, to replace my car for almost all of my local travel.

With the help of a backpack, I have taken a full grocery cart worth of stuff back to my RV on my Zero DS in a single trip.  It has a lot of storage space as it has no power or charge tank (so that is more storage space) as well as the side bags and travel trunk along with a backpack.

-Don-  Reno, NV