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Author Topic: 2012 Zeros Recalled!  (Read 22298 times)

ColoPaul

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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #105 on: June 15, 2018, 08:22:16 AM »

Well, the check came today.  Coincidentally, when I went to get the check at the dealer, they were just loading up the bike.  Destined for Akron, Ohio - for 'recycling'.   I wonder what that really means?

Really, really sad to see my bike go. :'(  Was an old friend, just not right to 'trash it'.  Still wondering if I should have kept it, refused the $5k, and rebuilt the battery pack myself. 
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #106 on: June 15, 2018, 07:05:22 PM »

My payment has gone into my account today 15th June. I can now start looking for an ICE 125cc to learn on and probably take my A class test, which the refund will pay for. I then could get a DSR but I have a house refurb to pay for first. Here in the rural UK charge points are few and far between. Can I ask how other 2012 owners are fairing, if they have been happy with the deal and how Zero have handled their cases.
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #107 on: June 15, 2018, 07:44:35 PM »

My daughter's recall refund will help pay for about one-fifth of the closing costs for the modest 60-year old, 1900sf home that she is buying so that she can get out from under rents that are rising 10% a year in her area.
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Richard's motorcycle collection:  2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2020 KTM 390 Duke, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 (FZS1000N) and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #108 on: June 20, 2018, 01:10:25 AM »


Does anyone know how Zero is handling the accessories compensation part of this transaction ? Is Zero asking us to return the purchased accessories ? I have an additional charger and I bought the passenger foot pegs also. The towing company says they are only picking up the bike.
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Richard230

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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #109 on: June 20, 2018, 02:23:28 AM »


Does anyone know how Zero is handling the accessories compensation part of this transaction ? Is Zero asking us to return the purchased accessories ? I have an additional charger and I bought the passenger foot pegs also. The towing company says they are only picking up the bike.

I don't have an answer for you.  My daughter took off all of the accessories that she had on her recalled Zero, figuring that it wasn't worth the effort to try to get Zero to pay a fraction of their original cost.  She will either reuse them on her current Zero, should there be a mishap, or sell them on Craigslist some day.
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #110 on: July 09, 2018, 12:03:08 AM »

I hope they do "recycle" these bikes and they never see the road again.  Chalk it up to R&D early adoption or what ever but I'm glad people are getting some money for them.

On a side note there are two 2012's for sale on Cycle Trader.  The one in IA I emailed and then called and talked to them to let them know the bike was recalled for fire risk.  The guy was like um yeah ok thanks, bye.
But it is still there.  Are they dumb, lazy, or just unethical?
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Richard230

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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #111 on: July 09, 2018, 03:28:04 AM »

I hope they do "recycle" these bikes and they never see the road again.  Chalk it up to R&D early adoption or what ever but I'm glad people are getting some money for them.

On a side note there are two 2012's for sale on Cycle Trader.  The one in IA I emailed and then called and talked to them to let them know the bike was recalled for fire risk.  The guy was like um yeah ok thanks, bye.
But it is still there.  Are they dumb, lazy, or just unethical?

Perhaps all three?   ::)
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #112 on: October 27, 2018, 12:44:52 PM »

Hi! I have all the pieces except frame from 2012 zf9 ds. I m not the official owner because i bought as a spare parts looking for another 2012 zero damage motorbike to rebuilt. I just eard about the recall. Someone had this issue? Zero buyback the parts?
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #113 on: October 27, 2018, 07:38:42 PM »

Hi! I have all the pieces except frame from 2012 zf9 ds. I m not the official owner because i bought as a spare parts looking for another 2012 zero damage motorbike to rebuilt. I just eard about the recall. Someone had this issue? Zero buyback the parts?

In addition to entire 2012 motorcycles, Zero also compensated their owners for installed Zero accessories, I believe. But I don't think they will buy back a box full of random parts.  It is likely that the frame, with its VIN, is the most important item for them, so that it can be destroyed, legally proving that the bikes are off the road.  Regarding the other parts, like the motors, suspension, batteries, charges, controllers, etc., I think we all have wondered what happened to those after being returned to Zero.  ???
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2018, 05:29:03 PM »

But if battery is the problem they should be sure that all units are retired. Don't sell batteries as spares?
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2018, 07:23:31 PM »

But if battery is the problem they should be sure that all units are retired. Don't sell batteries as spares?

I have no idea what is going on with the 2012 batteries that were not recalled.  ??? But I think it is interesting that only the S an DS models for that year were recalled, if I am recalling correctly.  Perhaps there is more to this recall story than Zero has explained in their recall letters and official notices.   :o
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #116 on: October 31, 2018, 12:26:32 AM »

Seems Zero is not interested to recovered spares... Think I won't rebuilt this motorcycle if all frames are recovered by Zero.
Can the 2012 zf9 battery pack add to other year frame?
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keith burton

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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #117 on: October 31, 2018, 03:10:38 AM »

I would strongly advise you not to use the 2012 battery as they were recalled due to the potential to catch fire. Vibration caused wear to the cell pouches allowing in moisture. Newer batteries are set in Epoxy resin to combat this. Many of us would be tempted to create a cheap bike/cart ? but it is not worth the risk.
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #118 on: October 31, 2018, 05:04:17 AM »

But if Zero doesn't want buyback spares, Who have the responsability if something happens?
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Re: 2012 Zeros Recalled!
« Reply #119 on: November 14, 2018, 11:26:32 PM »

proposal for solution:
fill up the batterybox with silicon.
If there is no symptom for abraded cellcoat, silicon should avoid the effects leading to danger of fire.
There is a Silicon providing dielectric quality (ELPECAST® Wepesil potting compound (Silikon SR)).
In spite of missing guaranty this would be worth a trial ?

Joseph.
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