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Erasmo

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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2018, 06:02:38 PM »

I wonder why they haven't upgraded their lighting to full LED yet. I'm a simple man... and it annoys me that an electric bike is *burning* filament to generate light. :p
To keep the cost down. If you're dead set on LED you can always change the bulb yourself.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2018, 03:01:52 AM »

1) Service manual (here's the Alta manual for reference)
2) 4.0 FX brick
3) 'Port out' the MBB and/or controller to allow 3rd-party development (with Zero's permission, of course)
    of features like throttle maps, traction control, reverse, powerband simulation, etc., with the eventual
    goal of offering dealer-installed upgrades covered by warranty.

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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2018, 03:59:31 AM »

I did the 250 plus a couple times. An adventure each time. I am planning to go to ReFuel in Monterey in June.
Debating on towing SR or riding it. Still a Challenge to get from Primm ( state line ) to Victorville. Once there,
charge time is the only issue. Before Victorville, charge time is a MAJOR issue. I have  QuiQ and Elcon external
chargers but no Y cable so can charge at about 4KW per hour max. Don't have the money to spring for SuperCharger
and too cheap to spring for the Y cable. Neither of those options would really help between Primm and Victorville.
From what I hear, RV parks are becoming more EV friendly these days so that would help with that section.
We'll see

For others' info:

Refuel at Laguna Seca is
June 29, 2018 - 9:00am - July 1, 2018 - 6:30pm
according to
http://www.mazdaraceway.com/track-rental/refuel-speed-ventures

I'll try to head there too.  Last year there were at least 3 people from SF and at least a couple dozen from zero factory/scotts valley/santa cruz area.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2018, 04:55:29 PM »

I second this optional “ludicrous mode.”
Just got an SR and don’t like that initial lag when taking off. Maybe because I was used to an fz09 where you had to always back off the throttle to keep the front wheel down.

Other minor things would be keyless start and outdoor temp gauge


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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2018, 10:54:23 AM »

1) Service manual (here's the Alta manual for reference)
2) 4.0 FX brick
3) 'Port out' the MBB and/or controller to allow 3rd-party development (with Zero's permission, of course)
    of features like throttle maps, traction control, reverse, powerband simulation, etc., with the eventual
    goal of offering dealer-installed upgrades covered by warranty.

Ray

For the "Port out", yesterday i came across this site that claims to have this new diagnostics cable
http://shop.ecmcables.com/tuning-cables/Zero-Electric-Motorcycle-Tuning-OBDII-to-USB-Cables/Diagnostics-USB-Cable-for-ZERO-Motorcycles
I have a bit of a starting problem and I was wondering if any one tried this out yet?
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2018, 11:00:40 AM »

As it stands I dont think we will ever see anything we really want from zero as a manufacturer, so I believe we should just go ahead and make it ourselves, my next big project for my bike will be a cruiser style fairing, haven't decided on materials or mounting yet however.

In a few years, I will also replace the batteries in the stack with graphene lithium.
I'm still searching for a cost effective way to add more batteries until then.

Ultimately I'd love to just rip the bike apart and redesign it into something between the bike from akira and a monotracer.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2018, 09:02:52 PM »

You can make your own cable https://zeromanual.com/index.php/How_to_build_a_cable_to_access_the_MBB The OBD connector also has CANbus, that cable is a serial port connection. It won't tell you much that you can't see in log files https://zeromanual.com/index.php/Official_Mobile_Application
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2018, 02:44:54 PM »

A move to 200V+ battery pack so that we can utilise CCS DC fast charging (and allows for more performance within the existing cable current constraints).

Energica built CCS fast charging into their bike from day one. If they and every EV manufacturer can do 200V+ safely, then so can Zero.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2018, 07:38:23 PM »

I'd like a better dealer network as i really would like to buy a zero but when i see all the problems some of you have, i NEED a dealer in my city, not 250km far away.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2018, 08:34:05 PM »

What do I REALLY want for 2019?

A proper, professional Software QA team at Zero.  Actually, I'd like that to happen sooner than 2019.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2018, 04:37:24 AM »

A move to 200V+ battery pack so that we can utilise CCS DC fast charging (and allows for more performance within the existing cable current constraints).

Energica built CCS fast charging into their bike from day one. If they and every EV manufacturer can do 200V+ safely, then so can Zero.

It's not just about safety, it's also about efficiency.  At 116VDC you can use OptiMOS power transistors, but at 200+V you need less-efficient IGBTs.  I mean, with the obvious circuits.  (A clever engineer might do better, but vehicular folks generall do integration (save time? money? maybe not in the long run) by going with a controller with from a third party rather that building one in-house.)

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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2018, 11:12:56 PM »

What's all this talk about wanting traction control.  No thanks, don't need that.

But I would like to have more control over the BMS when it comes to reducing performance (speed/torque) in order to maximize SOC.  Why not let the rider decide when they want to ride more conservatively in order to save battery power?  The current algorithm that manages that is way too conservative and kicks in way too soon.  Get rid of it and let me decide.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2018, 01:11:08 AM »

...I would like to have more control over the BMS when it comes to reducing performance (speed/torque) in order to maximize SOC.  Why not let the rider decide when they want to ride more conservatively in order to save battery power?  The current algorithm that manages that is way too conservative and kicks in way too soon.  Get rid of it and let me decide.

It's not entirely (or even mostly) to maximize range. The cells have a maximum safe discharge rate, and that rate varies quite a bit as a function of SoC. Discharging faster than that can easily and quickly damage the battery, so the ramp-down of discharge rate enforced by the BMS settings is probably intended to ensure good battery lifetime more than to increase range.

What year is your bike? My 2014 SR originally had a fairly aggressive ramp-down. It was clear that it cut in by no lower than 60% SoC, and by 40% the bike was considerably slower to accelerate. But since my battery pack was rebuilt to 2016 specs, the ramp-down is quite a bit less severe. I'm pretty sure that in recent years, the battery cell manufacturer has up'ed the spec as far as allowable discharge rate is concerned, especially at reduced SoC.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2018, 02:25:33 AM »

Doug, thanks so much for the explanation.  I thought is was all about trying to maximize range.  I have 2017 DSR.  I'm going to took a look at the logs to see if I can pinpoint what percent SOC the reduction starts to take effect.
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Re: What do we want for 2019?
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2018, 04:24:08 AM »

Since it was asked again, I will answer again; Cruise Control

AKA Custom mode.
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