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[grandpa]

new colors replace some old ones ?

[Richard230]

new colors replace some old ones ?

I may be the only one, but I hope they keep yellow.     All of my luggage is yellow.   

[Hansi]

Here's a few things I learned about the '18 models. They're changing the colors on some of the models. The motor power stays the same as '17. Battery capacity is up from 13.0 to 14.4, 7.2 for FX, and 3.6 for power tank. Charge tank goes from 3hr to 2hr charge time (stock charger stays the same). No new models for '18. I'm sure there's more but this should keep us busy until the full public announcement is made.

If this turns out to be the reality:
- What's a realistic range travelling at 55mph?
Are Zeros claims realistic?
SR 13.0=158 km, SR 14.4=158/13*14,4=175 km?
DSR 13.0=142 km, DSR 14.4=142/13*14,4=157 km?

- How many kW would a Zero with the new charge tank be able to charge at?
14,4 kW/2=7,2kW?

[nevetsyad]

Typically 100Wh/mile at 55MPH. So, easy math there. But, when you start charging faster, it becomes more efficient to ride as fast as your want, so long as you have the range to make it to the next charger.

Sounds about right, if it really does promise a 2 hour charge. I'm not sure that they'd go that high with a charger, knowing it could pop many EVSEs though. Maybe they Tesla is and make it pull back on the amps if the voltage sags too much.

[papawheelie]

Hi all. This is my first post, although I’ve been lurking for a couple months as I contemplate the decision for my next toy.

I was at a local dealer this week who also confirmed a few of these same details. No new models for 2018 and no "performance" improvements. All focus has been on improvements to range and charging speed/capacity. Oh, and some new/different colors. The gentleman indicated that the price difference between remaining 2017 models and new 2018 models is about $2,000.

I fully understand focusing all progress on range and charging at this point, as that is my own biggest hesitation about jumping on board. I love the idea of electric, and the 13.0 will (barely) meet my daily commute of 100 (mostly freeway) miles. The SR would be a daily rider for me 90-95% of the time. It’s that other 5-10% of the time that causes me to hesitate... the Saturday rides with buddys, where I have to stop, turn around, and go home after 50 miles while they all continue riding the rest of the day. That thought makes me sad.

Anyway, I’m definitely interested.

[nevetsyad]

Anything on PlugShare that you could get the gang to stop at for lunch or breakfast? An hour of charging with a supercharger and you’d be back to 90% power.

[gyrocyclist]

Better maintenance support from dealers! My SR is around 18 months old. I called the dealer I bought it from for the 1st maintenance (per owner's manual) and was told, "oh, there's no scheduled maintenance." WTF? Called a second dealer (I live in the SF Bay area, so there are several) and they seemed to know what I was talking about, so I've taken it there for initial and 4K maintenance. Unf, my kickstand started screaching and acting funny not long after the 4K. I looked in the manual, and it's in the list of things to be checked. Clearly, the dealer didn't do this. I sprayed some lubricant, and wow, what a difference. I'm now wondering if *any* dealers actually pay attention to Zero's maintenance schedules. And what else my local dealer didn't check.

2nd wish, of course, is longer range/faster charging. I expect this will greatly improve during the next five years, as EVs (two and four wheel) become more common-place, thus spurring innovations in battery technology and reductions in pricing. In the meantime I've bought a Honda CB500X for multi-day touring. Great bike -- but not nearly as much pure fun as my SR. Unf, there aren't charging stations (that I know of) in any of the national parks/forests in California.

That's about it for me. Unlike  postings in other threads, my 2016 SR has performed flawlessly.

[Straightedg4lif]

Ugh. Kinda disappointed in the color choice for the SR. (White) I know you can't please everyone but was really hoping for black. Other than that excited about the 2018's.

[firepower]

[Richard230]

It appears that my dreams have been answered.  Everything remains pretty much the same.  Just a little better than last year.    The colors look a little bland, though. 

[togo]

more battery, more rapid charging, different colors, more expensive, not the same

[Richard230]

more battery, more rapid charging, different colors, more expensive, not the same

The same relative to what you might have expected from Brammo Brian, who is now running the Zero engineering and development department.    I am sure that he hasn't had enough time to put his ideas into Zero's design yet.  That might take a couple more years.

[MrDude_1]

Im checking the Zero website right now... I can only get a new SR in WHITE?? What the fuck?
Its not even a color. It looks like a teenage girl's iPhone.

Their not to mention their whole damn site is horrible now.

Im extremely disappointed. I will be buying a new SR after the start of the new year, but I dont want a white one. Now I have to order '17 plastics or paint my brand new bike. You would think they would realize that color OPTIONS should be a thing... like every other bike.

[Straightedg4lif]

Im checking the Zero website right now... I can only get a new SR in WHITE?? What the fuck?
Its not even a color. It looks like a teenage girl's iPhone.

Their not to mention their whole damn site is horrible now.

Im extremely disappointed. I will be buying a new SR after the start of the new year, but I dont want a white one. Now I have to order '17 plastics or paint my brand new bike. You would think they would realize that color OPTIONS should be a thing... like every other bike.

I second your opinion. Am highly disappointed in the white color choice for the SR as well. I wasn't a huge fan of the red either but would take that over the white option. I'm not sure what I plan to do when I get mine in April. It cost quite a bit to have a bike painted, (I want black) and these are expensive enough. Decisions, decisions.
 

[Richard230]

Well, the white color of the S model that I ordered yesterday doesn't look much better and I am not sure that the looks are going to be improved after I put my yellow luggage on the bike. I guess Zero got a big discount on lots of white plastic this year.    Now, let me see.  Where did I put that rattle can of yellow paint.......