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[DonTom]

> BTW, I have many Android tablets (none have cell phone & my PAYG cell is a rather stupid phone). None of my tablets work with the Zero program. Some are very new, some quite old.  Are there any that is compatible with the Zero program that don't have the phone, or will I have to buy a SmartPhone or what?

You should probably start a new topic for this.

Yeah, but now no need. I bought  a  cheap new  Sumsung Galaxy J1 (about $50.00@ Best Buy) which works perfectly with the Zero software.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[Shadow]

OK, cool.  If you still want to run it on your tablet as well, you can back
up the app (I use Astro File Manager) and then transfer the .apk file...

I'd had a look at Don's tablet computer devices, none are ARM processor with Android. I don't think Windows for tablet or Android for Intel are supported targets of the Zero Motorcycles App. There was an older phone Samsung Galaxy Player that was Android and ARM processor but its version of Android was too old. There may have been a way to either install a newer Android ROM to that older phone or to install an older package of the Zero Motorcycles App that would run on the older version of Android, but that's a lot of time and effort for less than an ideal outcome.

It is far easier to suggest buying a new device that would run the Zero Motorcycles App.

[originalspacerob]

Question about a full charge on a 2017 DSR. When I charge the bike and it stops at 100%. I only see 12.054 kWhours on the battery. Is this pretty standard with all the 2017 models. Are they only allowing the batteries to charge to 90% wattage but displays 100% on screen. I tried unplugging and plugging in and it never charges beyond 12.054 kWhours. Any information on what others are seeing would be great.


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[Shadow]

...stops at 100%. I only see 12.054 kWhours...

This is normal operation for ZF13.0 and there is a pessimism factor built into the percent readout as well (6% for my 2016 DSR). You could charge the battery to 13kWh capacity but then the bike would not operate, it is designed for longer cycle life and less stress to degrade the pack.

[togo]

> ...stops at 100%. I only see 12.054 kWhours...

https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-ds/2017/specs.php?model=dsr

Look at the "nominal capacity"

[2017-10-19 I editted the link above to link to the 2017 specs, specifically, since the URL without a year now points to 2018 specs]

[originalspacerob]

Thank you very much for clarifying. I skipped right over that in the specs. Makes sense to me now. Thank you both for explaining. I was getting confused when reading thru the threads here. Everything seemed ok because my range is about where it needs to be based on riding and conditions. Ill just pay attention to see if that number ever tapers off in the future.


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[togo]

I use an energy saving mains socket for PCs:
http://www.ansmann.de/en/products/chargers-power-supplies/energy-saving-mains-sockets/aes3?___store=en

It's programmable to the standby consumption of the plugged in device and switches power off after 1 minute as soon as the standby draw have been reached.
Power on is via push button.

I see you program it by pushing the red button.  I don't see what the limits are.  Specs are a little sparse.  Can it really be told that 500 watts or so should be considered standby?  Or is it some more normal figure, like Wemo Insight's limit of 99 watts.

[togo]

I ordered one of the eurospec ones to try

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122689768397

(I already have a euro style power strip coming off the nema 14-50.)

It'll be interesting to see if it can be told that 800 watts or so should be considered "standby".

[JaimeC]

Well, I just got back from getting the latest software flashed on to my Zero S.  It reset my "Custom" settings but I was easily able to change them back to what I like.

One other thing I noticed was that as soon as the bluetooth connection was established, the display on the app went directly into the "Riding Screen" mode.  I used to have to manually select that.  If I want to get into the "Settings" screen it looks like I have to deploy the sidestand... THEN I can get into the "Settings" panel.

So far, that's all I've noticed.

[Shadow]

...the display on the app went directly into the "Riding Screen" mode.  I used to have to manually select that.  If I want to get into the "Settings" screen it looks like I have to deploy the sidestand...

Sounds like expected behavior. Try also the throttle-disable switch if you need your kickstand up and want to access the app in non-riding screen mode.

[JaimeC]

You could be right.  I don't think I ever tried to access the settings while I was sitting on the bike before.  What happened was on my ride back home I switched to "Custom" mode and noticed I wasn't getting anywhere near the amount of regenerative braking I was used to.  I pulled over to the shoulder to try to check it, but I couldn't get into the settings menu.

After I got home and parked it in the garage on the charger I tried again and this time didn't have any issue getting to the settings menu.  While I was on the side of the road, I had the sidestand up, and the "On/Off" switch on the right handlebar was in the "On" position.  Naturally, in the garage on the charger, the sidestand was down.

Anyway, it turns out that the software update reset everything to defaults and the regen was set to "60%" in Custom mode.  I cranked it back up to 100% and it's back to the way I like it.

[Richard230]

You could be right.  I don't think I ever tried to access the settings while I was sitting on the bike before.  What happened was on my ride back home I switched to "Custom" mode and noticed I wasn't getting anywhere near the amount of regenerative braking I was used to.  I pulled over to the shoulder to try to check it, but I couldn't get into the settings menu.

After I got home and parked it in the garage on the charger I tried again and this time didn't have any issue getting to the settings menu.  While I was on the side of the road, I had the sidestand up, and the "On/Off" switch on the right handlebar was in the "On" position.  Naturally, in the garage on the charger, the sidestand was down.

Anyway, it turns out that the software update reset everything to defaults and the regen was set to "60%" in Custom mode.  I cranked it back up to 100% and it's back to the way I like it.

That happened to me a couple of times on my 2014 Zero S, but it was very random and had no pattern, other then it seemed to occur when I was riding in air with very high (100%) humidity. Once returning home I was always able to restore my custom setting.

[macstructures]

I have version 40 on my DSR 2016, what is the latest version? Im still hesitant on doing and update. I only have one dealership in town and Im not sure they have enough experience on Zeros... so Im not sure if they will do it right... I don't ride a lot, bought it June 2017 and so far only 1600 miles.

[JaimeC]

I have version 40 on my DSR 2016, what is the latest version? Im still hesitant on doing and update. I only have one dealership in town and Im not sure they have enough experience on Zeros... so Im not sure if they will do it right... I don't ride a lot, bought it June 2017 and so far only 1600 miles.

If your bike is running fine, DON'T DO IT.  Countless messages here and on Facebook indicate there is an issue with the new software regarding range and state of charge.  Typically, if you have a 13 kWh model, it now will start behaving like a 9.6 kWh model.  Haven't seen any indication of a fix from Zero, just a lot of frustrated users (including me).

[Richard230]

The 2014 S that I gave my daughter still has revision 36 and the bike is running well enough that she has no intention of rolling the dice.