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Yes, one charger for USD700 sounds great, I want one

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Yes Yes, I'd take two chargers for USD1250

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No, I need a charger that is waterproof/dustproof

14 (23.7%)

No, I'm happy with my current charging setup

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No, that price is too high for me

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[forestlane]

I have a Zero S 2014 and I am looking for affordable quick charging and a Mennekes connector. In the Netherlands and most countries in Europe the Mennekes is the standard.

with quick charging my dream is about 9Kw charging (1 hour) and I am willing to pay 1.500 EUR (about 2000 USD).

Who, especially in Europe or the Netherlands, has an idea?

[evtricity]

I have a Zero S 2014 and I am looking for affordable quick charging and a Mennekes connector. In the Netherlands and most countries in Europe the Mennekes is the standard.

with quick charging my dream is about 9Kw charging (1 hour) and I am willing to pay 1.500 EUR (about 2000 USD).

Who, especially in Europe or the Netherlands, has an idea?

Hi forestlane,

Our double charger with AC input limited to 32A (2 x 16A) offers ~8.7kW when used in combination with the onboard charger.

To utilise Mennekes stations you'd need to also use a Mennekes to IEC C19 adaptor to plug in our double charger. We are looking at finding a third party supplier or making a Mennekes adaptor that provides 3 x IEC19 plugs. Two plugs go into our double charger and the third can be plugged into the onboard charger.

Cost for our double charger is expected to be EU1300. The optional Mennekes adaptor will be ~EU200.

So total cost would be EU1500 including delivery but excluding import duties and taxes.

Hope this gets you close to your fast charging dream.

[Hartmut]

Hi evtricity,
this setup is exactly what I need and want!
Living and driving in Germany the import tax will be 19%.
Please give me a note when you know the conditions of selling and shipping.
Thanx

[Skidz]

@forestlane: 4 Eltek FP-S programmed to 57.6v and a bit of hardware also gets you to 8,5kW power. With a bit of resistor magic you could charge from the default Mennekes ports in NL at those rates. The chargers cost 280 a piece so that's 1080 in chargers, leavind 430 for the odd bits and pieces you need.

Where are you situated in NL? I have made a Mennekes breakout box for charging that can easily be adapted for an onboard charger + 4 Elteks.

[Lecram]

Hi evtricity,
this setup is exactly what I need and want!
Living and driving in Germany the import tax will be 19%.
Please give me a note when you know the conditions of selling and shipping.
Thanx

Be aware that 19% is NOT the import tax, but the VAT (MwSt. in German). The import tax is additional. I don't know exactly how much it is, but you customs can tell you this.

[Skidz]

For NL it's 19 euro fixed intake fee, 21% VAT (BTW) and 21% import tax for electronic devices capable of charging (8504 40 90 80 TARIC code)

[forestlane]

Hi Skidz,

I live near Den Bosch. But I am flexible for traveling in the Netherlands.

[Hartmut]

@Lecram: Thanks for the note. I called the german custom office today. So it is 19% VAT and 2.5% import tax. I have no idea why it is so different to NL?!
@ David: It is only possible to import a charger to the european community when it has the CE ("Communautés Européenne") identification. Are you able to get this?

[vaiarii]

It is only possible to import a charger to the european community when it has the CE ("Communautés Européenne") identification

Good point I forgot about!
And what will happen if it doesn't this identification?

[Lecram]

@Lecram: Thanks for the note. I called the german custom office today. So it is 19% VAT and 2.5% import tax. I have no idea why it is so different to NL?!
@ David: It is only possible to import a charger to the european community when it has the CE ("Communautés Européenne") identification. Are you able to get this?

It is not different. Also 2,5% import tax, only the VAT is a bit higher: 21%

[Skidz]

Oopsie, didn't read the site of the customs office right
Indeed the VAT is 21% and import tax is between 3-4.5% according to https://belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontentnl/belastingdienst/prive/douane/goederen_ontvangen_uit_het_buitenland/van_organisaties_en_bedrijven/hoe_bereken_ik_de_belasting_bij_invoer_internetaankopen

[evtricity]

It is only possible to import a charger to the european community when it has the CE ("Communautés Européenne") identification

Good point I forgot about!
And what will happen if it doesn't this identification?

The rectifiers used in our chargers do have CE compliance and meet a number of other standards for electrical compliance (UL 60950-1; EN 60950-1 and IEC 60950). We are investigating whether these existing compliances can be used for the fast charging kits.

We will shortly be sending chargers to Europe and USA for locale testing with Zero owners. These will be considered prototype fast charging kits and we will not have gone through separate CE compliance for them as prototype electrical products may be imported into Europe for testing purposes without CE markings.

Given the small volume of chargers we are likely to sell in Europe (<20) obtaining CE certification will be cost prohibitive.

We'll update this forum when we are able to confirm whether the CE marking of the rectifiers can be used for the charging kits. If not, and we are required to undertake dedicated CE Marking to import them into Europe, it is likely that any further charging kits destined for Europe will be classified as prototypes.

[evtricity]

Here are some images of the ~7.2kW double charging prototype kit that we will be sending out to Europe and USA for locale testing soon.

The final units will be powder coated or anodised.

[vaiarii]

We will shortly be sending chargers to Europe and USA for locale testing with Zero owners

Once that will be done, could you tell us how the delivery process in Europe goes well?

[Fred]

Would it make sense to sell and ship these as a kit without the PSUs for overseas orders? A quick look on eBay shows plenty available in the UK.