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Would you be interested in purchasing a compact lightweight 3.3kW charger for USD700?

Yes, one charger for USD700 sounds great, I want one
- 25 (42.4%)
Yes Yes, I'd take two chargers for USD1250
- 12 (20.3%)
No, I need a charger that is waterproof/dustproof
- 14 (23.7%)
No, I'm happy with my current charging setup
- 4 (6.8%)
No, that price is too high for me
- 1 (1.7%)
No, I just love filling out polls
- 3 (5.1%)

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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #120 on: June 07, 2017, 07:53:29 AM »

Progress update - production charging kits being sent on Tuesday 13th June

The first batch of 20+ charger cases have been finished and we will building all the pre-ordered chargers this weekend (thank you to those who have pre-ordered and been waiting patiently for their deliveries). We will have the cases on Friday and will update the online shop photos with images of the black gloss double chargers.

As testing in Europe and USA has gone as expected, we are pleased to announce that we will be shipping both pre-orders and new orders from Tuesday 13th June with deliveries reaching overseas customers from the w/c 19th June.

Please go to http://evtricity.com.au/shop if you wish to purchase one of our charging kits for Zero 2014-2017 motorcycles. If you have any questions, please email us at support@evtricity.com.au.
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #121 on: June 07, 2017, 01:34:30 PM »

Great progress!

What test details can you give us about 3 phase charging in Europe?
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #122 on: June 07, 2017, 02:05:56 PM »

Great progress!

What test details can you give us about 3 phase charging in Europe?

Testing has been completed in Europe using our double charger at 230v x 32A (2 x 16A) using a tester's Mennekes to 3 x C19 adaptor on 11kW and 22kW stations in parallel with the onboard charger. Charging rates on the Zero app were around 8000-8300 watts (75-80A) DC.
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #123 on: June 08, 2017, 08:03:46 AM »

very nice !
cant wait, cant wait more, neeeeeeeeed  :-[
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #124 on: June 08, 2017, 10:06:49 AM »

very nice !
cant wait, cant wait more, neeeeeeeeed  :-[
Hang in there!

The finished cases have arrived today (and they look great in gloss black - see pics below) so we'll be busily assembling over the weekend and shipping all orders on Tuesday 13th June with deliveries in w/c 19th June.
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #125 on: June 08, 2017, 10:48:03 AM »

Is it possible to combine the charge tank with the double charger kit, without blowing the charging fuse?

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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2017, 11:24:07 AM »

Is it possible to combine the charge tank with the double charger kit, without blowing the charging fuse?

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I'm not familiar with how the Charge Tank is wired (there aren't any Zero owners near Sydney that have a Charge Tank).

Can anyone chip in as to how the Charge Tank is wired in respect to the 100A charge fuse?

If it goes via the existing 100A charge fuse then you'd only be able to run our single charger with the Charge Tank and onboard. In Europe withe 230V and 16A setting you'd have 3.7kW + 2.5kw + 1.3kW = 7.5kW up to ~75A DC depending on state of charge). The double charger (an extra ~35A over the single) would push that over 100A. If the Charge Tank doesn't go via the same charge fuse then the 100A fuse would not be an issue and you could consider a double charger but you would be at or very close to the 1C BMS limit on a 2015 12.5kWh pack (1C should be 108A) and 2016/17 (1C should be 116A). In those cases you could just forego using the low powered onboard charger and squeeze under the 1C limit.

These are general recommendation - I'd need to know which Zero battery you have, local voltage etc to give you a better recommendation that would avoid you going too close to the charge fuse or 1C BMS charging limit.
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2017, 01:13:45 PM »

I had the exact same question when figuring out how far I could go, and found out the charge tank goes through the 100A charge fuse. So at 7.5kW (Chargetank + onboard + aux charger) it's maxed out.
The chargetank is 2500W, and when connecting it it will also engage the onboard totalling in a theoretical 3.8kW although I have never seen it charge any faster than 30A in the logs...
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2017, 07:18:47 PM »

Are the chargers waterproof?


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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2017, 07:54:16 PM »

Are the chargers waterproof?


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Hi benswing.

This is addressed in the first post in this topic and also on the ZMC facebook group where you noted on my initial post on developing the chargers that "Personally I would be hesitant to use anything that isn't waterproof, but the price is very attractive". Since then we've tested and are applying a conformal coating to the chargers to provide moisture protection in high humidity environments.

So to confirm again, the chargers aren't waterproof but they are lighter, more compact and 60-70% less expensive per kW than competing chargers for Zero motorcycles. They're proving popular and I'm very pleased that we can open up fast charging to those who may not need or be able to afford the more expensive options.
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #130 on: June 08, 2017, 08:48:43 PM »

...Since then we've tested and are applying a conformal coating to the chargers to provide moisture protection in high humidity environments.
Ah same as done for marine spec... Thinking of SF Bay fog and road salt / alkaline dust getting kicked up into the bike. How about the fans as a point of failure, have you gotten a chance to evaluate what happens when a fan shorts out? Are they fused, are the fans easily sourced and replaceable?

P.S. to anyone out there needing a clean looking and no-modification L2 charging inlet install - I'm looking into a run of brackets so you could mount an L2 charging inlet by the passenger foot pegs. Prototype works well, been using it myself lately, direct-message (DM) me if you're interested.
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #131 on: June 08, 2017, 09:08:51 PM »

We're using Electrolube HPA conformal coating - http://www.electrolube.com/core/components/products/tds/044/HPA.pdf.

The fans are EFC-04G12W-BP01 - see photo below. Easy switch in and out via JST connector. Replacement cost is about USD7-10 plus shipping - https://www.yoycart.com/Search?SearchText=EFC-04G12W-BP01&catId=0&catId=0.

The Emerson R48-2000e3 rectifiers used in our chargers have inbuilt Fan Fault Protection. The rectifier module shuts down and its alarm indicator (red) flashes if the fan fails.
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #132 on: June 08, 2017, 09:52:08 PM »

Are the chargers waterproof?

Hi benswing.

So to confirm again, the chargers aren't waterproof but they are lighter, more compact and 60-70% less expensive per kW than competing chargers for Zero motorcycles. They're proving popular and I'm very pleased that we can open up fast charging to those who may not need or be able to afford the more expensive options.

Great!  Thanks for the info.  Thanks for adding a charging option to the market!
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« Reply #133 on: June 09, 2017, 07:21:57 PM »

Double charger photos showing gloss black finish.
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Re: Compact lightweight 3.3+kW fast charger for USD700, 6.6+kW for USD1250
« Reply #134 on: June 09, 2017, 10:36:14 PM »

Looks great! I've been following this thread and am very interested in getting one of these!
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