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Re: charge tank
« Reply #75 on: July 28, 2016, 05:35:39 AM »

Here is my 2016 DSR charging at the local grocery store (Fred Meyer for those of you from the NW) Blink charge station.  I am only a Blink guest but could have saved nearly 25% BY being a member.  Left the bike for under an hour and went from 52% TO 98% charge.  Cost was $2.45. Cheers! 8)
Holy moly!  You found a Blink station that works!  Congratulations!  I've had only 50% success rate with them. 

Glad the charge tank is working out for you. 


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Re: charge tank
« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2016, 10:38:43 PM »

Penultimate update: I picked up the bike on Friday and rode it home. It was almost two full months without the Zero to get this thing installed. The dealership relayed the Factory's description of the problem as "Something to do with the JIB", which doesn't make any sense to me. And it didn't make sense to the Zero tech at my dealership, either. Whatever. I have a bike again.

They also added a touring windscreen. On the way home, I pulled 97.9 miles in Eco mode, never going above 60mph. I still had 10% left in the tank when I arrived, too. Obviously this isn't definitive proof, but it sure seems like the windscreen is improving the efficiency.

I'll report back once I get a chance to actually use the charge tank.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #77 on: August 07, 2016, 11:32:45 PM »

They also added a touring windscreen.

Would you mind to check your dealer installed touring windscreen against the zeromanual.com common modifications guide I posted? I have not much confidence if what I did for my install guide was correct.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #78 on: August 08, 2016, 02:37:54 AM »

Sure, I can do that for you. I had to briefly remove the windscreen in order to remove the right mirror today. So I can definitely confirm that the mounting points to the bike is correct. I'll check the windscreen itself and get back to you.

I'm writing up some posts for the accessories section of the board, including a bar end mirror installation. I know you're looking for confirmed accessories, so hopefully this will be right up your alley.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2016, 02:45:54 AM »

My new Charge Tank is so sexy, even bugs want to have sex on it.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2016, 07:18:28 PM »

I am pretty experienced with the classic ICE mechanics, but really new to the electric "engineering"...
Am confused about the charge tank compatibility with the charging stations you find near the highways and in public parkings, etc.
Can you expect a standard "plug" that you stick into the Zero charge tank?
Suppose you install the Zero charge tank, can you then quick charge it at any charging station that is available?
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2016, 07:44:01 PM »

I am pretty experienced with the classic ICE mechanics, but really new to the electric "engineering"...
Am confused about the charge tank compatibility with the charging stations you find near the highways and in public parkings, etc.
Can you expect a standard "plug" that you stick into the Zero charge tank?
Suppose you install the Zero charge tank, can you then quick charge it at any charging station that is available?
In the US most public stations use a J1772 plug which is what's on the Zero charge tank.  You can buy an adapter that will let you plug into NEMA 14-50 outlets as well.  It won't work with DC fast charge stations (Tesla, CCS or CHAdeMO).

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Re: charge tank
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2016, 10:28:50 PM »

I am pretty experienced with the classic ICE mechanics, but really new to the electric "engineering"...
Am confused about the charge tank compatibility with the charging stations you find near the highways and in public parkings, etc.
Can you expect a standard "plug" that you stick into the Zero charge tank?
Suppose you install the Zero charge tank, can you then quick charge it at any charging station that is available?
In the US most public stations use a J1772 plug which is what's on the Zero charge tank.  You can buy an adapter that will let you plug into NEMA 14-50 outlets as well.  It won't work with DC fast charge stations (Tesla, CCS or CHAdeMO).

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What has happened with the DC charging solution?
http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=5524.0
Seems like a better way - to avoid carrying around your own charger ...
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #83 on: August 08, 2016, 10:42:13 PM »

I am pretty experienced with the classic ICE mechanics, but really new to the electric "engineering"...
Am confused about the charge tank compatibility with the charging stations you find near the highways and in public parkings, etc.
Can you expect a standard "plug" that you stick into the Zero charge tank?
Suppose you install the Zero charge tank, can you then quick charge it at any charging station that is available?
In the US most public stations use a J1772 plug which is what's on the Zero charge tank.  You can buy an adapter that will let you plug into NEMA 14-50 outlets as well.  It won't work with DC fast charge stations (Tesla, CCS or CHAdeMO).

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What has happened with the DC charging solution?
http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=5524.0
Seems like a better way - to avoid carrying around your own charger ...
A lot of the CHAdeMO charge stations don't follow protocol and don't go to a low enough voltage for the Zero. That's why Zero stopped selling the adapter. The DigiNow Super Charger will get around this by accepting the higher voltage and stepping it down to the right voltage for the Zero but it's a work around for the station not working the way it should.  The CHAdeMO adapter for the DigiNow is still being tested. CCS would be nice but it's still new and not a lot around. I'm sure that will be supported eventually. Tesla requires buy in to their network but it would have to be Zero that would buy in on behalf of the owners since Tesla currently won't let just anyone hook up even if you are willing to pay.

In the long run there's no doubt DC charging is the future but the future isn't quite here yet.

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Re: charge tank
« Reply #84 on: August 09, 2016, 03:19:44 AM »




In the long run there's no doubt DC charging is the future but the future isn't quite here yet.

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To "help the future" I've been in contact with NMCU (Norwegian Motor Cycle Union), and they have promised to check with the companies setting up the charging stations if they really don't support 100V DC charging. If they don't support the standard, maybe it can be possible to make them aware of the problem?
If we all try to make our National MC organisations (& FEMA - Federation of European Motorcyclists Associations & US ?) aware of this problem maybe we can have the future come faster ...
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #85 on: August 09, 2016, 07:04:11 AM »

For Shadow:
Overview:


Top detail:


Lower detail:


To my inexperienced eye, you have everything correct. Additionally, Shadow has my permission to use these images in the Unofficial Zero Manual as you see fit. Higher resolutions available upon request.

In short: Shadow has done so much for the community, that I would be happy to help in whatever way I can.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2016, 11:54:25 AM »

...To my inexperienced eye, you have everything correct...

Okay. Nice photos! Looks like the edge piping is missing. See Zero's product page for Touring Screen image (attached, source: product page as linked).

I'm looking for if the solid bars are mounted through and with the plastic end caps fitted, or if the caps are omitted and the solid bars are mounted ends flush with the handle bar mount brackets; Also looking to see the orientation of the through mounts for the windscreen plastics; And as already mentioned, the edge piping.

Did you get the leftover parts?
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #87 on: August 09, 2016, 08:42:32 PM »

I'm looking for if the solid bars are mounted through and with the plastic end caps fitted, or if the caps are omitted and the solid bars are mounted ends flush with the handle bar mount brackets; Also looking to see the orientation of the through mounts for the windscreen plastics; And as already mentioned, the edge piping.
Solid bars are mounted through the holes and plastic end caps are fitted on the rider end of the bars. Quite snugly, too. You can't see it in these photos, but the lower edge of the windscreen is about 1/8" off the headlight housing.
I didn't notice the lack of piping until you pointed it out. :)

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Did you get the leftover parts?
No. The dealership was quite happy to be rid of me before I raised a stink (they had my bike for nearly two months at this point). They even forgot to give me back my power cable. Very friendly people, if a bit disorganized.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2016, 09:16:37 PM »

why are there wind screen post, on Charge tank thread ???
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2016, 06:02:40 PM »

Final update: The charge tank works. Whew. And my dealership mailed the old plastic, storage bag & power cord to me. I think technically the only thing missing are the bolts that held the handlebars in place that were replaced with the longer ones for the windscreen.
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