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[Electric Terry]

This portable charger will do 5 kW and your charge tank and onboard will do 3.8 kW so it's powerful enough with some to spare.  Plus it should make the exchange easy and let you keep the Juicebox connectivity app which is useful since our bikes don't have network connectivity.   But with the Juice App you can connect to all the features and monitor charging progress and see kWh added etc.

https://emotorwerks.com/products/juicecord

Terry, do you know if the charge tank will work with a regular NEMA 14-50 cord or does it need a smart cord like the Emotowerks juice cord?


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Charge Tank will not work with the 14-50 to J plug you use for the Diginow, it needs one with the pilot signal and proximity signal like the cord I listed above.

[JaimeC]

Going off on a tangent here:  Looking at the Charge Tank page on the Zero website: http://tinyurl.com/zjsgksa

Since they seem to have different part numbers for the different colors, I'm assuming that means the ENTIRE "tank" assembly is replaced and not just the inner storage compartment?  I ask because I have some stickers on the sides of the existing "tank" that I would not be able to easily move over.

Thanks,

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

Going off on a tangent here:  Looking at the Charge Tank page on the Zero website

Since they seem to have different part numbers for the different colors, I'm assuming that means the ENTIRE "tank" assembly is replaced and not just the inner storage compartment?  I ask because I have some stickers on the sides of the existing "tank" that I would not be able to easily move over.

Yes, that's what normally happens. The centerpiece is plastic-welded (using a soldering iron and lockwasher) through holes in the side pieces. It can be detached with careful use of heat or pliers, but then the centerpiece sprues used to weld it together will not be usable, so the centerpiece won't easily rejoin (though I suppose it could be done with the right glue or something).

However, I acquired a power tank centerpiece that had not been welded yet, and I've been using it as a dynamic piece I can join to other tank side pieces. So, it is possible. Maybe your dealer can request a Charge Tank centerpiece that way.

[Semper Why]

Since they seem to have different part numbers for the different colors, I'm assuming that means the ENTIRE "tank" assembly is replaced and not just the inner storage compartment?  I ask because I have some stickers on the sides of the existing "tank" that I would not be able to easily move over.

This is correct. On the positive side, they give you the old upper assembly so you can keep it, experiment, sell it, whatever. On the negative side, you're going to have to replace those stickers.

IMHO, you're already spending $2K on an accessory. Another $12 for new stickers isn't that big of a deal.

[Chief_Lee_Visceral]

I never ordered the DSR with the charge tank and I am waiting for delivery of a Diginow to Hollywood Electric and they will install it for me. Woot! I hope it is soon! Thanks for the replies.

[bikerscooby]

Charge Tank (and DigiNow/other fastcharge) owners, can you post your usage experiences with this accessory?  Is it glitchy?  Does it work as advertised?  How long does it take at a L2 station to charge from about 10% to 80% using this? 

[Electric Terry]

Charge Tank (and DigiNow/other fastcharge) owners, can you post your usage experiences with this accessory?  Is it glitchy?  Does it work as advertised?  How long does it take at a L2 station to charge from about 10% to 80% using this?

Most tested and reliable is the Hollywood Electrics Elcon Kit - With the onboard allows 6.3 kW charging for a 10-80% on a 4 brick in about a hour.  You have to carry these in side or top cases.  It has been available for 4 years now and many Zero owners have these.

Next is the ChargeTank from Zero.  Came out about 5 months ago and reliability seems good.  With the onboard allows 3.8 kW charging, for a 10-80% charge in about 2 hours.  This can not be used on bikes that have or will want a PowerTank.  But it is integrated into the tank area and a good choice if you don't need the most power and don't have the max battery.

Next is the supercharger.  This is being made by a small company and while perhaps the best and most powerful product, has the growing issues of a small company.  There have been some testing issues and right now there is a long backlog of orders with at least a 6 month delay, and no communications person to let everyone know the progress.  But it is capable of 10 kW on it's own from an RV type plug.  But at this point if you need something soon, you need to look elsewhere.

There is always the accessory delta Q charger.  It is only a 1 kW unit, but can cut charge time in half for now, full charge in 4 hours with the onboard.  But not good enough for traveling, just for faster charging at home really.

Call Hollywood Electrics and discuss your needs, vs time, cost and storage space and they can help you choose an option best for you as they carry all 4 types of chargers listed above.

[Semper Why]

A data point for those considering the Charge Tank. This was this past Saturday.

[bikerscooby]

Similarly, I have some data from this morning after I picked up my Elcon charger last night and also lost my 120V cable (don't ride with it in the frame, it can fall out!), so had to charge at work at a level 2 ChargePoint this morning.

I was at about 60% this morning and it took about an hour to get to the 85% level where it reduces current and was at 100% and no current at a total of 90 minutes.  The max rate was 4.09kW, much better than my last ChargePoint charges on the adapter cable that maxed out about 1.4kW.  This is with a single Elcon charger with 2 cables going into the bike, one passthrough to the side standard port and one on the quick charge port underneath.  The ChargePoint station was a dual unit and the other side was in use so it's possible I didn't get the maximum possible current out of it but it seems about right.

The Elcon is bulky, heavy, and unwieldy to haul around but in use seems to perform similarly to the Charge Tank, and in this sample test slightly better then the 3800 W last reported.  The advantage is less cost and I only need to carry it when I'm going on a long trip (or in this case when my regular cable is missing).

[kashography]

I live in europe, so i can plug in at 230V Outlets everywhere. To get 2.1kw with the charge Tank when i Plug in the onboard charger compared to the 1.3 before would be a very nice! Its just so sad that on e lvl2 Charger the System only gets about 3.8kw. When you make tours you dont want to wait 2hrs to 2.5hrs to charge 80%, thats just not practical enough. So thats a bit sad

I'd love 2 Elcons, that would be a combined power of 6.3kw, what i would be perfectly happy with. But then i cant charge at 2.1kw at a standard socket right? because first - i dont want to carry the Elcons all the time, and second - 2.5kw of a single elcon would be to much for a 10A Socket when there is no way to turn that down manually..

Is it possible to combine the charge tank with an Elcon? So i would have 2.1/3.8kw for everyday use and can carry the elcon for long trips and then charge at perfectly fine 6.3kw

[Skidz]

My chargetank charges my ZF13 pack with a regular 230v connection on the side port with 2,2kW, filling the bike from 12% to 100% in 4.5 hours... The last 15 minutes the chargetank stops helping, probably the finishing stage somehow. It finishes at 1.3kW.
I'd also like to experiment with hooking up an extra PSU, so I can use 1.3kW internal + 2.6kW chargetank + 3.6kW PSU's on a three phase Mennekes. This should bulk fill the bike in just over 75 minutes from 0% to 80%ish instead of almost 150 minutes...

[kashography]

does anyone know if it is possible to connect the chargetank and an elcon together for faster charging at 1 charginstation?

How many hours did your mechanic charge for the chargetank installation? Mine offers me 3.5hrs, what seems a lot to me, but maybe its normal?!

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

does anyone know if it is possible to connect the chargetank and an elcon together for faster charging at 1 charging station?

Yes, you should be able to connect an Elcon or other charger through the accessory charging port. The Charge Tank is isolated so will not present a problem. The Charge Tank will also maintain the bike in charging mode, so you can turn the bike off and walk away while charging.

How many hours did your mechanic charge for the chargetank installation? Mine offers me 3.5hrs, what seems a lot to me, but maybe its normal?!

It seems that the install will take that long for a while, at least. Initial dealer reports were that this isn't an easy install. Maybe it'll get faster once dealers are more experienced with them, but there's apparently some cable rerouting that involves quite a bit of teardown.

[kashography]

Thanks for your answer Brian! 

Its good news that i can combine the elcon and the chargetank at the same time. Thats awesome. Elcon offers a Cable for adapting 2 elcons and the onboard charger into a J1772 Plug. https://hollywoodelectrics.com/product/custom-j1772-adapter/
Is there anything like this possible to connect the chargetank and the elcon to only have 1 Plug (Type2)?

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

Its good news that i can combine the elcon and the chargetank at the same time. Thats awesome. Elcon offers a Cable for adapting 2 elcons and the onboard charger into a J1772 Plug. https://hollywoodelectrics.com/product/custom-j1772-adapter/
Is there anything like this possible to connect the chargetank and the elcon to only have 1 Plug (Type2)?

It depends on what connection is used between the Charge Tank's J1772 inlet and the charger in the tank, but if it's a Brown Anderson connector and there's room to route the cabling, it seems doable. Ask Hollywood Electrics; they should have a good idea what's possible.