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turbojet

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« on: May 03, 2016, 10:54:28 AM »

Anyone have one of these yet.  I keep getting different shipping dates from my dealer.   :'(
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 01:15:39 PM »

Hello turbo, have you considered the Diginow supercharger that's coming to market imminently?

It'll fit in the same space the charge tank takes up.

Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
http://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=5040

I've not seen anyone with a charge tank yet. It sounds like they aren't ready.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2016, 11:10:23 PM »

My dealer is also being a bit vague about the shipping dates for the Charge Tank. The last information I received was "early to mid-May". Which would be any day now.

As soon as I hear from my dealer, I'll pop back in here and post.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2016, 11:18:46 PM »

I am thoroughly convinced at this point that QA for any compact high-powered charger is Not Easy. Kudos to both the known and anonymous engineers out there testing and refining these things.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2016, 09:31:25 AM »

I talked to the parts guy at Zero yesterday (as I am expecting my new DSR in the next few days) and he thought they could be out in a week or two.  ;)
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2016, 05:54:22 PM »

I am thoroughly convinced at this point that QA for any compact high-powered charger is Not Easy. Kudos to both the known and anonymous engineers out there testing and refining these things.

Brian +1
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2016, 09:44:28 PM »

I am thoroughly convinced at this point that QA for any compact high-powered charger is Not Easy. Kudos to both the known and anonymous engineers out there testing and refining these things.

yeah. its insane the amount of work for a non-compact, non-vibration proof  at home DC charger...  its just a switched power supply but at these power levels everything is harder... My first design had thermal issues and it was no where near compact.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2016, 12:35:57 AM »

The dealer reports that my Charge Tank has shipped and may be in their hands by tomorrow. If so, I'm going to stay at friends' house Friday night and ride the rest of the way & have 'em install it on Saturday. It's going to be a trip of very careful, low-speed riding.

Well... low-ish.  ;D
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2016, 01:47:08 AM »

The charge tank is $2000, but you also have to add the dealer's charge for installation.  It will be interesting to see what dealers will be charging to install the "tank".   ???
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2016, 03:05:13 AM »

In the US, the cost of the charge tank plus installation gets you a 30% refund from the IRS when you file your taxes for 2016.  Keep that in mind.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2016, 11:02:16 PM »

How fast is the Charge Tank?

The website says 2.9 hours for a ZERO SR ZF13.0, 95% charged.

Is charge rate fastest up to ~80% charge like the Tesla Supercharger in good conditions? 

So what is that time up to 80%?

It would be really nice to have the capability of the Diginow charger, but the Diginow is $3000 instead of $2000. 
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2016, 11:35:19 PM »

There's a reason it's cheaper - it charges at under 4,000 watts. Supercharger is 10,000. If you plug into a typical L2 charger, you'll charge 50% faster (6kW), and not be capped at the lower rate. Better yet, if you find an RV park along your route, you can charge at 10kW, only with the DigiNow.
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2016, 07:19:09 AM »

There's a reason it's cheaper - it charges at under 4,000 watts. Supercharger is 10,000. If you plug into a typical L2 charger, you'll charge 50% faster (6kW), and not be capped at the lower rate. Better yet, if you find an RV park along your route, you can charge at 10kW, only with the DigiNow.

When you say Supercharger, you mean DigiNow right?

Tesla kinda took Supercharger -there are already 3,700 Tesla supercharger- so its confusing. 

I did not think that $2000 to 3000 was crazy expensive, until I had a conversation with my Mom.  She asked me what I paid for the bike and I said $12,000.  She said that the charge tank is a large percentage of the cost of the bike  (17% for me).  So with the new way of looking at that, I thought wow, 17% is a lot of a accessory charger. 

A DigiNow is 25% of the cost of my bike and that is not including installation. 

I hope these are prices for early adopters and the price will drop, just like Zero dropped the MSRP of its bikes.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2016, 01:05:28 AM »

It will take time for the prices to drop.  And summer is here now!  [emoji6]. Also, it is unlikely anyone will come up with a better charging system in the next few years.  The DigiNow supercharger costs the same as it did when it was in a bigger housing made for cars.  It is made in collaboration with emotowerks.
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Re: charge tank
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 02:01:46 AM »

Yes, it's 25% of the bike's cost, but it enables the bike to be so much more. Stock, the bike is great for riding to work and back, plus goofing off over weekends. Toss a supercharger and a grand worth of Givi accessories on the bike, and you have a touring vehicle. "Gas up" in an hour or two while hanging out at a museum, library, mall, park, etc., usually for free, and ride for an hour or two. Rinse and repeat. Strap a tent and a sleeping bag on there and take a month of vacation off during Summer. Man I wish I didn't have a family right now. :)
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