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Richard230

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Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« on: April 07, 2016, 08:38:26 PM »

Here is the first independent review of the Skully AR-1 HUD helmet that I have seen.  But still no hint what the price of the helmet might be. I bet it is not going to be cheap, though:

https://rideapart.com/articles/first-impressions-skully-ar-1-helmet
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2016, 10:50:00 PM »

I can't wait until those helmets get more mainstream, I love the Bluetooth connection in my helmet and a hud and integrated camera would really complement that.
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2016, 11:35:10 PM »

Here is the first independent review of the Skully AR-1 HUD helmet that I have seen.  But still no hint what the price of the helmet might be. I bet it is not going to be cheap, though:

https://rideapart.com/articles/first-impressions-skully-ar-1-helmet
I did read somewhere that the expected price is $1200 - $1500 range. I'll try to dig up the link when I get home.
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2016, 11:56:03 PM »

Here is the first independent review of the Skully AR-1 HUD helmet that I have seen.  But still no hint what the price of the helmet might be. I bet it is not going to be cheap, though:

https://rideapart.com/articles/first-impressions-skully-ar-1-helmet
I did read somewhere that the expected price is $1200 - $1500 range. I'll try to dig up the link when I get home.

The Kickstarter campaign quote was $1500.

I feel like this is too risky a price for a helmet (easily damaged/ruined, hard to fit all head shapes and preferences) and eventually a pluggable/modular design will win out. But whoever it works for will be pleased, no doubt.
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2016, 03:24:12 AM »

They are available on Skully's website for $1499....well....you can order it but the estimated delivery is "summer 2016"

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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 03:38:09 AM »

Here is the first independent review of the Skully AR-1 HUD helmet that I have seen.  But still no hint what the price of the helmet might be. I bet it is not going to be cheap, though:

https://rideapart.com/articles/first-impressions-skully-ar-1-helmet
I did read somewhere that the expected price is $1200 - $1500 range. I'll try to dig up the link when I get home.

The Kickstarter campaign quote was $1500.

I feel like this is too risky a price for a helmet (easily damaged/ruined, hard to fit all head shapes and preferences) and eventually a pluggable/modular design will win out. But whoever it works for will be pleased, no doubt.
People who order this helmet are the tech freaks/pioneers with a lot of money and paving the way for such features to be mainstream in 10 years or so, much like the first Zero owners :)
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2016, 04:32:42 AM »

Tracy Bollard did a which I found informative.

I feel like this is too risky a price for a helmet (easily damaged/ruined, hard to fit all head shapes and preferences) and eventually a pluggable/modular design will win out. But whoever it works for will be pleased, no doubt.
Yes, it is expensive. But let's consider that it's a helmet + bluetooth communicator + rear facing camera wrapped up in one package. It's not unheard of for a quality full-face helmet to cost $600+. Add a $300 integrated communicator and who knows how much for the camera system, it's starting to make sense how the price came about.

I did see & back a Kickstarter for a motorcycle HUD add on, similar to a Sena or Cardo system. But it didn't have the camera and they refunded the Kickstarter participants after they received VC funding. It's expected price was $500 for a basic system.
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2016, 05:17:56 AM »

Tracy Bollard did a which I found informative.

I feel like this is too risky a price for a helmet (easily damaged/ruined, hard to fit all head shapes and preferences) and eventually a pluggable/modular design will win out. But whoever it works for will be pleased, no doubt.
Yes, it is expensive. But let's consider that it's a helmet + bluetooth communicator + rear facing camera wrapped up in one package. It's not unheard of for a quality full-face helmet to cost $600+. Add a $300 integrated communicator and who knows how much for the camera system, it's starting to make sense how the price came about.

I did see & back a Kickstarter for a motorcycle HUD add on, similar to a Sena or Cardo system. But it didn't have the camera and they refunded the Kickstarter participants after they received VC funding. It's expected price was $500 for a basic system.

Context: I own the $700 Schuberth C-3, with no bluetooth enhancements, and I paid roughly $70 for a highly convex RiderScan mirror to cover my blindspots. I bought the Schuberth after an insurance payout where my previous cheaper helmet saved my head, and the price is occasionally scary to contemplate.

I'm not saying that the Skully price is unfair; just that if my helmet breaks or wears out, I still have my mirror. Bundling all of that value together heightens the downside of helmet compromise.
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2016, 07:40:10 AM »

I'm not saying that the Skully price is unfair; just that if my helmet breaks or wears out, I still have my mirror. Bundling all of that value together heightens the downside of helmet compromise.
Hmm. If your Skully goes "thunk" on something, you still have your mirrors anyway. But I see your point.
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2016, 07:42:45 PM »

So I've had one of these on pre-order since the original campaign. I cancelled it today.

Over the past few years there have been back-to-back, persistent delays to the product and they've recently issued another 'shipping update' letting me know it now will not arrive until August-ish (maybe). I have no doubt that it's going to be an awesome product category, but they're getting dangerously close to loosing their first mover advantage.

That being said, I can't wait until it's comes time to replace the current lid and have a choice of smart helmets / get my hands on a rev 2.
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2016, 08:12:47 PM »

So I've had one of these on pre-order since the original campaign. I cancelled it today.

Over the past few years there have been back-to-back, persistent delays to the product and they've recently issued another 'shipping update' letting me know it now will not arrive until August-ish (maybe). I have no doubt that it's going to be an awesome product category, but they're getting dangerously close to loosing their first mover advantage.

That being said, I can't wait until it's comes time to replace the current lid and have a choice of smart helmets / get my hands on a rev 2.

That kind of reminds me of the Zero's first couple of years. In 2008 I had ordered a Zero via the internet (no retail dealers in those days) and the delivery date kept being pushed back and back, again and again, so I finally became frustrated, gave up and canceled my order.  I then bought a 2009 Electric Motorsport GPR-S, which was actually on a retail dealer's (The Electric Green Store) showroom floor and could be purchased on the spot, for $8,300.  Too bad a year later, just after the introduction of the Brammo Enertia, my dealer went out of business and it wasn't too long after that when Electric Motorsport changed their motorcycle brand name to "Native" and then they finally went out of business as a production electric motorcycle manufacturer (they now sell DIY kits). Dealing with a start-up company with a great idea, but a complicated product (such as the Lit C-1), is a risky business for the consumer.
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2016, 09:02:07 PM »

According to this news article, Skully has imploded: 
https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/07/26/2123201/ar-helmet-startup-skully-has-crashed-and-burned

It sounds like the typical small start-up technology business with an innovative-sounding product.  As soon as the investors arrive, if it doesn't make money right away, they shut down the operation and move on to something else. And of course, a lot of very smart and futuristic-thinking people who start these companies are not the best businessmen and are always underfunded, leading to a collapse of the company when trying to produce the product and get it into the market before the money runs out.  :( Fortunately for us, the people who invested in Zero avoided that path and stuck with the business long enough to produce a viable product.   :)
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2016, 06:13:56 PM »

Aaaand it's gone. Huge disappointment given I like seeing invitations succeed.

As of July 28
https://rideapart.com/articles/bad-worse-skully-systems-goes

The backstory on July 22
https://rideapart.com/articles/investors-remove-skully-founders-company

Last one, with a fairly good conversation in the comments.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/26/once-promising-ar-motorcycle-helmet-startup-skully-has-crashed-and-burned/
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2016, 04:08:47 AM »

And here is a link to the longest blog yet that I have seen regarding the demise of Skully helmets.  Sure sounds like the typical "vaporware" company to me.  Run into the ground by the management:   :(
http://www.bikebandit.com/blog/post/high-tech-helmet-company-skully-closes-doors-after-ousting-founder
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Re: Skully AR-1 HUD helmet review
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2016, 05:26:45 AM »

I was seriously considering to pre-order one of these. I'm disappointed.

Riding on the nearly vibration-free Zero DSR today I had a thought, would haptic feedback be interesting in the throttle grip?
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