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[Yon]

Does anyone have any more specifics on the SHOWA suspension on the 2015/16 Zero Motorcycles?  Is the same or similar to SHOWA found on any other motorcycles?  Any details on the internals?  I know it's quality and clearly wholly superior to the Fast Ace from 2014 but wanting some more details.  Thanks.

[laramie LC4]

i was wondering the same thing.

i took an '16 FX-S to my suspension guy and he assured me that the front was pretty standard, the rear he said was a little different but he felt confident that race tech would have everything we needed. springs, valves, shims, and seals. he also told me the 2" diff in the FX and FX-S was simply and internal spacer, hence you can buy an FX-S and convert the suspension to FX specs very easy.

my plan is to buy a '16 FX-S w/ a set of FX wheels so i can switch between the 2. we had been stumped by the rotor size diff but yesterday me and the dealer had a stroke of genius and realized all we need was a 320mm front rotor that fit the 4 bolt pattern of the FX wheels. yes, it's gonna be WAY more front brake than i need off-road but for the convenience, cost, and ease, it cant be beat.

laters,

laramie 

[Cortezdtv]

What bike has a 320 mm 4 bolt pattern rotor?

[laramie LC4]

the 2016 FX-S has a 320mm front disc. the problem when swapping wheels is relocating the caliper for the 240mm of the FX rotor. instead, i will just use the FX wheels and get a 4-bolt pattern 320mm (same as the FX-S) and eliminate having any issues with the caliper.

this is the rear but the front is the same.

[Say10 15FX 16FXS]

What bike has a 320 mm 4 bolt pattern rotor?

None that I could find.


Also, the FXS front rotor is way different. Large 5 bolt pattern to fit mag wheel.

[MrDude_1]

Does the zero fx rotor bolt pattern match the old honda 4 bolt pattern?

[laramie LC4]

your not listening....

but you are correct by saying, there are no Zero bikes with a with a 4 bolt pattern, 320mm front rotor.

my problem was trying to fit the FX wheel onto an FX-S.

to do this you either need to do 1 of 2 things;

1) re-locate the caliper to the 240mm placement of the current FX wheel set up, OR  2) find a 4-bolt pattern, 320mm rotor that will fit the FX wheel and not require re-locating the caliper.

i will do the later. understand?

[firepower]

So do fx and fx-s have same rotor disc bolt pattern or are you getting custom 320 mm rotor made? There were rotor disc diagrams on the forum used to reduce remove brake squeal. These may be of help if you need to get custom disc made. They were improvements to stock.

http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4857.0

[laramie LC4]

wow, you guys gotta read.

no the FX and the FX-S DO NOT have the same bolt pattern, they are completely different wheels but that does not matter. i just need a front disc with a 4 bolt pattern that will fit the FX wheel, and it needs to be a 320mm so we don't have to mess with the caliper. i will not need to have one "custom" made as i'm sure there are plenty already in production. i just need to find one...

laters,

laramie 

[Say10 15FX 16FXS]

If you can't find one that fits, please let us know how much a custom rotor costs. I would like one too.

[steven_first]

Here is the data I got from Zero.  I am looking into getting some softer springs as I can't even get 1/4" of sag from my suspension as I am not fat enough....  Sorry for the formatting as it was in a table and I am far too lazy to fix it.  Enjoy!


Model Year

15

Model

FX

Component

Fork

Side

Left

Right

Part #

22-05868-02

22-05869-02

Free Length

789.1±2.0mm

Max Length

798mm

Min Length

580mm

Stroke

218mm

Spring Rate

5.4 N/mm

Oil

SS No.8

Oil Volume

442±2.5cm3

Oil Level

103mm*

Rebound (Tension)

Max - 9 clicks

Compression

Max - 5 clicks

Preload

Min + 3.0 turns

Outter Tube Finish

Natural Anodized (silver)

Slide Tube Finish

Nickel - Hard Chrome

Rebound (Tension) Finish

Black Anodized

Compression Finish

Black Anodized

Component

Shock

Part #

22-05879-02

Spring Rate

73.6-82.4 N/mm**

Free Length

320±2.0mm

Max Length

320.5mm

Min Length

246mm

Stroke

74.5

Rebound (Tension)

Max - 12 clicks

Compression

Max - 9 clicks

Preload

2nd Position

Body Finish

Natural Anodized (silver)

Rod Finish

Nickel - Hard Chrome

Rebound (Tension) Finish

Black Anodized

Compression Finish

Black Anodized

[rayivers]

Great info - thanks!

Ray

[MrDude_1]

your not listening....

but you are correct by saying, there are no Zero bikes with a with a 4 bolt pattern, 320mm front rotor.

my problem was trying to fit the FX wheel onto an FX-S.

to do this you either need to do 1 of 2 things;

1) re-locate the caliper to the 240mm placement of the current FX wheel set up, OR  2) find a 4-bolt pattern, 320mm rotor that will fit the FX wheel and not require re-locating the caliper.

i will do the later. understand?

I am listening.
what is the measurement of the 4 bolt pattern of the fx?

You can cross ref off that to match any other dirtbike.
then when one matches, just order a 320mm supermoto rotor for that bike.

I am willing to bet it matches the older honda CR 4-bolt pattern...

[laramie LC4]

wow, guess i need to read more. kinda ironic. hehehehe! 

the numbers i have been looking for/waiting on, are listed on the Zero website. no measurement needed.

front rotor for the standard FX wheel is a 240 x 4.5

so, we need to find a 320 x 4.5 and we are golden!

and wouldn't you know it, my boy's in orange come through again. the front rotor on the new KTM 1190 adventure is an exact match.  im sure there are plenty more as well but i just stopped looking at that point. i knew it could be done, which flavor you choose is up to you.

problems solved.

now i can start figuring out the fork travel difference and a way to quickly switch between the 178mm of the FX-S to the 218mm of the FX. that's the last piece of the puzzle. whoohoo!

laters,

laramie 

[MrDude_1]

wow, guess i need to read more. kinda ironic. hehehehe! 

the numbers i have been looking for/waiting on, are listed on the Zero website. no measurement needed.

front rotor for the standard FX wheel is a 240 x 4.5

so, we need to find a 320 x 4.5 and we are golden!

and wouldn't you know it, my boy's in orange come through again. the front rotor on the new KTM 1190 adventure is an exact match.  im sure there are plenty more as well but i just stopped looking at that point. i knew it could be done, which flavor you choose is up to you.

problems solved.

now i can start figuring out the fork travel difference and a way to quickly switch between the 178mm of the FX-S to the 218mm of the FX. that's the last piece of the puzzle. whoohoo!

laters,

laramie 

almost.  you have to look at the rotors and see if they're dished the same... a street bike like the 1190 usually has the rotor dished outward. A dirtbike usually has no dish.