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[stevewp]

To my knowledge,  they have no plans to demo an SR this year, though I may be wrong. They're running the DSR and (I think) an FX for demos.

The Elcon looks great. My only concern is that instances of battery explosions in electric vehicles always seem to involve fast chargers. Call me paranoid but.....

I think you may be right though. Just see how I go before taking any extra plunges.

Doing the maths, 60% usage on the standard battery equates to 51% usage when using a power tank. That's close enough for my liking  😉

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[stevewp]

Yes, that makes sense.

It is important to know the internal battery temperature (or what the bike thinks it is). If the bike is garaged and leaves the house at a 15C battery temperature, even in near freezing outside temps, I doubt the inside of the battery will cool off to anywhere near that cold temperature. I'd take stock in reports from folks who keep their bikes outside and assume the battery temp is known, not just the ambient temp. I'm willing to bet something inexpensive that those who do not see a range decrease have their batteries at near normal operating temperature despite the cold outside

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[buutvrij for life]

And why not go for an 13.0 S with powertank?
You will be able to complete the journey to work and home, and have some reserve in cold conditions and headwinds without charging at work, for a slightly higher price then an normal SR.

If you just fancy the SR for it's capabilities, you might buy a petrol bike with same performance for half the price of the SR and save enough money to buy petrol for years, and return home in minutes.

[buutvrij for life]

As for difference in range: a windscreen wiil gain some miles, other tires will not (have fitted Michelin Anakees III on DS, love them for other reasons), cold/warm conditions will do something, but not that much. As you know, speed is Zero's biggest enemy if it comes to range.

I drive my DS in eco 90% of time and still have enough power for normal traffic. In sportmode i think it's fast. If you look down, you will see that i was used to some horsepower...
Max acceleration of my DS is about the same as S with powertank fitted.

[stevewp]

I'd be interested to try an S, to see if it's much slower.

And yes, replacing my ageing Pan with a newer petrol bike has crossed my mind but my heart's just not in it. I kinda want my cake and to eat it too lol

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[Justin Andrews]

I'd be interested to try an S, to see if it's much slower.

An S in Sport mode is similar(ish) to an SR in Eco mode.

[stevewp]

That rules that out then

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[Justin Andrews]

Why else do you think I'm getting an SR...

[stevewp]

Lol

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[MostlyBonkers]

+1 for SR or DSR depending on preference. The only reason I'm making the compromise and dropping to DS is because I've had a very expensive year of motorcycling and just cannot afford exactly what I want. I'm jealous of whoever bought the ex-demo 2015SR. That was a great deal! Still out of my price range so I should just forget about it.

If I had your commute Steve, I'd be disappointed with anything less than what you have your sights set on.  You obviously like to enjoy your rides to the max.

I shall be reporting on my commute on my DSP eventually, we'll compare notes and I'll be just a little bit green with envy whist you and Justin report on how much fun you're having on your bikes.

I can only hope that I'll be as happy as buurjit (spelling?) is on his DS and I can assure you the only time it'll be in eco mode is in heavy rain or when I've misjudged my range.

[buutvrij for life]

Okay, don't forget to put the sirens on then, when it's dry

[stevewp]

Don't get jealous just yet. If work won't allow me to charge or if finances just don't allow it, I'll be sticking with my lardy ST.

And boy does it feel lardy now compared with the DSR. For such a big bike it's always felt quick enough and more agile than you'd expect. But today it has no go, no stopping power and no ability to turn.

Or maybe I've just been very spoilt with the Zero this weekend

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[KrazyEd]

I am not sure about the weather over the year is where you live, but, as it warms up, your range gets quite a bit better.
You can also do some tricks in your riding style to increase range. If you are getting this kind of range in freezing temperatures,
I would imagine that your overall range would suffice during the nicer weather.

[stevewp]

The weather over the weekend that I had the bike wasn't great. 2C one morning. 4C the other two morning's. 5-7C on the evening's. Some strong winds, some torrential rain but  always wet/icy.

Summertime normally sees 20-25C average. High winds not common. Rain.......well, this is England.....

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[nigezero]

Great wrap, thanks. I have found similar to most others and that is this; many small things make subtle differences to range. Ultimately, keeping that balance in check with the right combo of storage and or chargers will get the majority to most destinations almost all of the time. The simplicity, power and fun are worth the effort.