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Hypothetically, How much would you pay for an onboard charger that could fit in your tank and charge your zero in under an hour?

500
- 14 (13.9%)
1000
- 21 (20.8%)
1500
- 16 (15.8%)
2000
- 30 (29.7%)
2500
- 7 (6.9%)
3000
- 7 (6.9%)
3500
- 3 (3%)
4000
- 2 (2%)
4500
- 0 (0%)
5000
- 1 (1%)

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #285 on: April 18, 2016, 07:42:01 AM »

I have looked at that link a lot. I have a power tank so I think I'll be able to connect via the aux port and plug into a 50A and plug the controller in for the fastest charge?

You should be OK with the aux port, but if you are putting it in the tailcase, you may want to use the controller connection instead. Both work great.

Here is a photo of me testing in Santa Barbara today via the aux port. I am using the onboard and a jplug from a charge point station. They are on average slower than many others, but the time to 100% seems reasonable. I generally only charge to 80% or 90%  anyway.



On phone otherwise would have put the image inline.

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #286 on: April 18, 2016, 08:01:25 AM »

AWESOME O___O
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #287 on: April 18, 2016, 06:07:19 PM »

I have looked at that link a lot. I have a power tank so I think I'll be able to connect via the aux port and plug into a 50A and plug the controller in for the fastest charge?

You should be OK with the aux port, but if you are putting it in the tailcase, you may want to use the controller connection instead. Both work great.

Here is a photo of me testing in Santa Barbara today via the aux port. I am using the onboard and a jplug from a charge point station. They are on average slower than many others, but the time to 100% seems reasonable. I generally only charge to 80% or 90%  anyway.



On phone otherwise would have put the image inline.

I think I'm confused on terminology and function. Are you saying that I'll be able to plug directly into the plug on the side of the bike (in the frame) and charge faster than using the Aux port (next to motor). I thought the connection on the side limited how fast you can charge whereas the aux port (connected directly to battery?) does not? Like I said, this is all foreign to me.
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #288 on: April 18, 2016, 10:12:52 PM »

I have looked at that link a lot. I have a power tank so I think I'll be able to connect via the aux port and plug into a 50A and plug the controller in for the fastest charge?

You should be OK with the aux port, but if you are putting it in the tailcase, you may want to use the controller connection instead. Both work great.

Here is a photo of me testing in Santa Barbara today via the aux port. I am using the onboard and a jplug from a charge point station. They are on average slower than many others, but the time to 100% seems reasonable. I generally only charge to 80% or 90%  anyway.



On phone otherwise would have put the image inline.

I think I'm confused on terminology and function. Are you saying that I'll be able to plug directly into the plug on the side of the bike (in the frame) and charge faster than using the Aux port (next to motor). I thought the connection on the side limited how fast you can charge whereas the aux port (connected directly to battery?) does not? Like I said, this is all foreign to me.

He's referring to a new connection that the supercharger install kit will provide, and connects to the battery side terminals of the controller under the seat.
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #289 on: April 20, 2016, 04:47:40 AM »

Hey guys, I was in a bit of a wreck yesterday and bumped my head pretty good. Lots of blood and all that fun stuff. ...

Oh, man.  Get well soon.

Ben to use more than 8 kW continuous you will need to use the controller kit.  Although the charge fuse is 100 amps we have had it blow on 2 bikes under 9000 watts.  So in the right conditions, the charge fuse didn't like even just 90 amps.  And because of that each bike was out of commission for a week replacing the wiring harness. 

So don't charge with more than a single 30 amp J1772 using the accessory port above the motor.   We have had about 20 things happen we didn't expect that have caused big delays in releasing this and this was just one of them.  But it's good EC has been asking us to perform this testing as Ben I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy charging at 10 kW at an RV park somewhere along your trip and then blowing your charge fuse and having to have your bike towed and in the shop for a week while a new wiring harness arrives.  So please everyone remain patient as you have been.  We are trying to find everything that can go wrong, and while we hope unexpected things aren't discovered, I'm glad we find them and fix it.  It just takes time.

Since the 14-50 testing isn't finished yet, right now the first few people that wish to soon receive the chargers will only be set up for J1772 charging, until the 14-50 adapter is sent separately and more fully tested.

I'm cool with that.  A 30 amp J1772 will certainly get my weekly long ride switched from car to e-motorycle, and I'll hold off on any Terry Hershner style marathon cross country trips until later.


Greatly appreciate the details. ...


Amen to that.  Might be good to send out an email to anyone who's already ordered, point them to this thread.

So the Controller option will come with the supercharger I already ordered, but doesn't have to be installed to use the 7.4Kwh option?  Sounds fine.

My first trip will be to Corbin, I think.  This thin factory seat is getting old.  I postponed my trip to them a few times already.


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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #290 on: May 03, 2016, 08:42:44 AM »

Hey guys!

Just a quick update, we have isolated a component that needs to be upgraded to handle a fluttering contactor on a damaged, super old station, or a station with low line voltage when multiple cars plug into the same drop (old shared line stations). This is also the same part we were working on with the NEMA 14-50 tests before.

So we have upgraded several chargers with the new parts and are now re-testing to ensure stable performance and voltage sensing.

We are getting really close! Terry, myself, and like Liveforphysics physics all agree... We don't know how we ever rode a zero without a super charger. It's like once you have had one, riding without one just seems silly.

Just a little more testing and we should have a really solid product for you. We have now tested over 30 types of charger and many generations of those types as well. We have each found some crazy unique chargers that none of had ever seen before. It was like a treasure hunt competing to see who could find and charge at the most obscure chargers. Great fun, and good data!

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #291 on: May 03, 2016, 09:28:31 AM »

Thanks for the update!  Assuming you don't have any unpleasant surprises, are you expecting to start shipping in a few days, weeks, or months?  Summer is back here in Vancouver and I'm itching to go on multi-charge rides.

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #292 on: May 03, 2016, 09:21:09 PM »

Just a quick update, we have isolated a component that needs to be upgraded to handle a fluttering contactor on a damaged, super old station, or a station with low line voltage when multiple cars plug into the same drop (old shared line stations). This is also the same part we were working on with the NEMA 14-50 tests before.

so curious people want to know... what is this mystery part?
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #293 on: May 03, 2016, 10:44:19 PM »

Thanks for the update!  Glad to hear it will be a robust product!
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #294 on: May 04, 2016, 01:26:59 AM »

I'm a new '16 sr owner and this is the most exciting prospect. I'm definitely interested in getting one of these when they become available.
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #295 on: May 04, 2016, 02:57:22 PM »

Electric Cowboy,

Is the supercharger going to be something that you can easily hook up and remove as needed or is  pretty much something you permanently mount on your bike?  Thanks, Vinny
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #296 on: May 04, 2016, 03:46:12 PM »

Electric Cowboy,

Is the supercharger going to be something that you can easily hook up and remove as needed or is  pretty much something you permanently mount on your bike?  Thanks, Vinny
Depends on de the setup. If you use the aux port and a top case you can remove it quickly but keep in mind that the charging power is limited if you charge through the aux port and not the controller.
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #297 on: May 04, 2016, 05:07:25 PM »

Electric Cowboy,

Is the supercharger going to be something that you can easily hook up and remove as needed or is  pretty much something you permanently mount on your bike?  Thanks, Vinny
Depends on de the setup. If you use the aux port and a top case you can remove it quickly but keep in mind that the charging power is limited if you charge through the aux port and not the controller.

This is something that I'm trying to understand also. Does connecting to the controller require modification to the bike/wiring?
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #298 on: May 04, 2016, 08:51:39 PM »

This is something that I'm trying to understand also. Does connecting to the controller require modification to the bike/wiring?

If you want to attach to the controller you could "hard wire" it in place or make a harness which would allow you to disconnect it from the charger. So no modification to the bike wiring would be required but you might need to migrate the "external charging" indicator pins to the new adapter so the bike knows to go into charging mode.
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #299 on: May 11, 2016, 02:17:49 AM »

When do you think these will go on sale to the masses?  I'm ready to throw all my money at one  ;D
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