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Hypothetically, How much would you pay for an onboard charger that could fit in your tank and charge your zero in under an hour?

500
- 14 (13.9%)
1000
- 21 (20.8%)
1500
- 16 (15.8%)
2000
- 30 (29.7%)
2500
- 7 (6.9%)
3000
- 7 (6.9%)
3500
- 3 (3%)
4000
- 2 (2%)
4500
- 0 (0%)
5000
- 1 (1%)

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #225 on: April 06, 2016, 08:29:30 PM »

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #226 on: April 06, 2016, 11:00:34 PM »

Thanks for the update! 

I love the automatic adjustment to the charging rate of the charging station.  Does that mean it will even work with Blink stations?  I always get an overcurrent fault (or some such nonsense) at Blink stations.


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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #227 on: April 06, 2016, 11:54:19 PM »

What's the latest ETA on general availability?
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #228 on: April 07, 2016, 01:43:17 AM »

What's the latest ETA on general availability?

If everything goes well over the next few days we will be delivering to Brian Rice after that. Terry is out and about testing the latest tweaks to the algorithm, so far the feedback I have gotten this morning could be summed up by this quote from him :

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New charger algorithm working awesome!! Way to go Brando!!!! :)

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #229 on: April 07, 2016, 02:32:41 AM »

Typo on the site ;)
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This is the most extreme case battery drain, only ever experienced by those who are considered both crazy and ledgendary.

Facing the possibility that my current Chademo setup and my DS might not be friends with each other after all I will opt for this. I do have a few questions:

- What is the extra cost for a mennekes inlet?
- Is it possible to get it installed in a topcase when shipped?
- You mention the charge limits on the site, I have access to 22-43kW Mennekes charging stations, would it be able to squeeze out more power on cold days?

But mostly I'm stoked that the development is getting nearer and nearer to completion, this is a real game changer! ;D
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #230 on: April 07, 2016, 12:57:10 PM »

Interesting and good to know that Luke is using this charger. That bodes well for Zero as an entity taking a positive view on these chargers.
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #231 on: April 07, 2016, 10:21:33 PM »

Typo on the site ;)
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This is the most extreme case battery drain, only ever experienced by those who are considered both crazy and ledgendary.

Facing the possibility that my current Chademo setup and my DS might not be friends with each other after all I will opt for this. I do have a few questions:

- What is the extra cost for a mennekes inlet?
- Is it possible to get it installed in a topcase when shipped?
- You mention the charge limits on the site, I have access to 22-43kW Mennekes charging stations, would it be able to squeeze out more power on cold days?

But mostly I'm stoked that the development is getting nearer and nearer to completion, this is a real game changer! ;D

Contact Mike with these questions so they don't get lost. I won't be able to answer right now.

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #232 on: April 07, 2016, 10:22:45 PM »

updated the charge limits.

2014-2016 have 100A fuse.

May update algorithm to increase charge rate based on battery state via anderson..

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #233 on: April 07, 2016, 10:52:25 PM »

Typo on the site ;)
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This is the most extreme case battery drain, only ever experienced by those who are considered both crazy and ledgendary.

Facing the possibility that my current Chademo setup and my DS might not be friends with each other after all I will opt for this. I do have a few questions:

- What is the extra cost for a mennekes inlet?
- Is it possible to get it installed in a topcase when shipped?
- You mention the charge limits on the site, I have access to 22-43kW Mennekes charging stations, would it be able to squeeze out more power on cold days?

But mostly I'm stoked that the development is getting nearer and nearer to completion, this is a real game changer! ;D

Contact Mike with these questions so they don't get lost. I won't be able to answer right now.
I'll shoot him an email.
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #234 on: April 08, 2016, 08:50:52 AM »

updated the charge limits.

2014-2016 have 100A fuse.

May update algorithm to increase charge rate based on battery state via anderson..
Appreciate the update, EC. Looking forward to some owner reports :)
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #235 on: April 08, 2016, 02:54:55 PM »

Great update!  Quick question, what is the lowest charge rate you can set the charger to(if I understand correctly how it works)?  For us off-griders who some times need to charge slow.  On board(12A) is too high to charge via wind and micro hydro over night.  Tesla can go as low as 5A. 

I know... It's counter to what we all want, but would get me out of a pickle. :-P 

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #236 on: April 08, 2016, 04:24:01 PM »

My question is how do you get around the problem of the on-board charger needing to be plugged in at the same time? From my minimal experience of level 2 charging points in the UK (i've looked at one), they only offer one Mennekes filler plug (?) and no UK three pin socket for the kettle lead.

In a similar vein, if there is only one three pin socket to charge from, is it possible to plug the super charger into the socket and make the most of the 3kW output that they can provide? I guess you'd need an output on the Diginow that supplies 240v to the on-board charger via a kettle lead. I've also wondered about this with the Elcons too.
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #237 on: April 08, 2016, 05:48:08 PM »

Typo on the site ;)
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This is the most extreme case battery drain, only ever experienced by those who are considered both crazy and ledgendary.

Facing the possibility that my current Chademo setup and my DS might not be friends with each other after all I will opt for this. I do have a few questions:

- What is the extra cost for a mennekes inlet?
- Is it possible to get it installed in a topcase when shipped?
- You mention the charge limits on the site, I have access to 22-43kW Mennekes charging stations, would it be able to squeeze out more power on cold days?

But mostly I'm stoked that the development is getting nearer and nearer to completion, this is a real game changer! ;D

Contact Mike with these questions so they don't get lost. I won't be able to answer right now.

Did you get my email a few days ago about the 3 phase version? Do you have any update?
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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #238 on: April 08, 2016, 07:33:46 PM »

My question is how do you get around the problem of the on-board charger needing to be plugged in at the same time? From my minimal experience of level 2 charging points in the UK (i've looked at one), they only offer one Mennekes filler plug (?) and no UK three pin socket for the kettle lead.

In a similar vein, if there is only one three pin socket to charge from, is it possible to plug the super charger into the socket and make the most of the 3kW output that they can provide? I guess you'd need an output on the Diginow that supplies 240v to the on-board charger via a kettle lead. I've also wondered about this with the Elcons too.

You have pins 38/40 on your MBB There is a small connector left of the contactor on battery with connecting to your anderson sbs75x (doesn't apply for non-MY13 bikes) ... these go to your Anderson external charger connector. When you plug in an external connector it talks to the bike to let it know it wan'ts to charger.

In this way you do NOT need the stock charger to put the bike into charge mode. And with this charger, since Brandon is smart enough to realize all you need is a resistor to trigger this behavior, you do not need to have an onboard charger to use the external one.

That said if you really really wanted to keep your external charger there would not be nothing stopping you from making a Y splitter to feed both your super charger and your stock charger. Right now, since I don't have the 38/40 pins installed on my bike yet (though I have the parts), I do just this with my RSP2000 charging stack.

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Re: Hypothetically, if you could charge a zero in UNDER 1 hour
« Reply #239 on: April 08, 2016, 07:40:13 PM »

Great update!  Quick question, what is the lowest charge rate you can set the charger to(if I understand correctly how it works)?  For us off-griders who some times need to charge slow.  On board(12A) is too high to charge via wind and micro hydro over night.  Tesla can go as low as 5A. 

You can download the app and use it to set the hard limit on kWh for your charge rate. I wouldn't be surprised to see this charger is adjustable down to bellow 5A

Thumbs up on the micro hydro! :) So much better than PV's
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