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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2015, 05:15:12 AM »

I think Zero have got to a point where they're happy to put a 5 year warranty on their batteries,  but that is really quite recent. I've heard a number of stories of battery failures on 2012 bikes.

Do you really want to have to replace the most expensive component when you buy a five to ten year old bike? I think the longevity of the batteries is yet to be proved and they currently account for three quarters of the cost of the bike.
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2015, 04:44:11 PM »

some News?
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2015, 05:20:39 PM »

Nothing official, Zero, like most manufacturers, keeps their cards tight to their chests about next years models.

I'm hearing rumors that an expansion of dealerships in Europe, to match the expansion in the US might be on the cards later this year, and might include new dealerships in the UK. How true or likely that is I don't know, but I have my fingers crossed.
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2015, 10:42:15 PM »

I would like more dealers in France because one of the things that scares me is, if i have a problem with the bike, i do not have a dealer in my town. And i do not want to do 3 hours to go to a dealer for every problem (and some of the owners here do have constant problems).
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2015, 11:27:04 PM »

Something with functional spray protection for the back wheel. Don't like a wet back.
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2015, 04:33:17 AM »

Does anyone know when the new models tend to hit the dealerships? I am debating on the 2015 SR or the 2016 SR and would love to know how long I have to wait for the 2016's? Since they are very pricey I don't want to get the 2015 then wish I waited for the 2016. If there is not much difference in the bikes than I will just get a slightly better deal on the 2015. So for me either way is a win if I wait just a little while longer.

Plus my dealer says he doesn't find out what the new models have to offer until he sees them on the Zero website. You would think that they would give the dealers a little heads up on what the new models are going to have instead of keeping them a secret.
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2015, 04:38:16 AM »

Probably won't be out until 2016

I'd get a 15, still get the showa and all the good stuff
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2015, 06:36:43 AM »

Typically Zero starts producing their new models sometime in December and (depending upon the location of your dealer) the new bikes will arrive on the showroom floor in January or February.  Zero has never leaked information about their next year models until the day they decide to make an official announcement, which is usually in September or October.
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2015, 06:56:43 AM »

It would be great if... or maybe WHEN.. Zero will  make their own ZF motor controller!

Personally i think it take alot of development and $$$ so that's why they just did not released any yet.

But for sure it would have a Controller/charger combo witch would reduce price  and cost less than a seperate charger and controller.

The high power J1772 charger could use the high power electronic to control the charge current,. It would only need a high voltage 85-264Vac rectifier circuit followed by a DC-Dc with a part of that DC-Dc using the input of the controller. So the controller would work as in regen mode when receiving Ac power.

Bigger battery IS NOT THE SOLUTION i think personally .. the 2015 are just perfect and it allow to commute between alot of charge station.

Having a bigger battery would just add weight that nobody want and let you do few more km between charge station witch does not worth it.

The ebike  community already have the Adaptto controller with is a combo that is using one of the  3 output phase to control the cahrge current to teh battery ans it also act as a boost converter to increase the charging voltage so it can charge from any source that is between 12 to 98Vdc. The main idea with a Zero charger controlelr combo would be teh same but instead of being a boost converter to increase the voltage it would be a Buck converter withc decrease the Voltage to reach the 102V of the battery.

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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2015, 08:53:49 PM »

The Zero could still add another 40 to 60 pounds to get up to the weight of a couple of my bikes.   ;)  I wouldn't mind having a larger battery pack so that I could ride longer without having to stop to recharge somewhere. When I go for a ride I don't want to stop until I get to my destination.  :) 
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2015, 09:07:04 PM »

I wouldn't mind having a larger battery pack so that I could ride longer without having to stop to recharge somewhere.

I agree. I think Zero could add a second "monolith" without making the bike too wide. Obviously such a bike would be more expensive than the current bikes, as well as heavier, but to me it would be worthwhile to have such a bike in the lineup. I don't know that I'd have chosen it, my 11.4 SR serves my needs very well, but I would have had to think pretty hard about it. Double the range would definitely be tempting.
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2015, 03:43:41 AM »

If I was only riding street and the money wasn't a factor I'd buy the biggest battery bike that Zero makes. But riding dirt - not so much.

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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2015, 03:53:04 AM »

I am all for giving customers choices.  For guys like me, a larger battery pack and for many others no on-board charger but a fast charger set-up instead. But I assume that Zero doesn't have enough resources to produce too many model options at this stage of their business development, so I guess they will test the market winds and produce whatever they feel will generate the most number of sales. 

My belief is that Zero will continue to try to increase battery density when possible, while cutting costs wherever they can to reduce the initial purchase price. Personally, I would like to see a larger chassis (perhaps something with a 60" wheelbase) that would allow more flexibility in packaging (and a better and larger two-passenger seat) that could also be used as the basis for a cruiser platform.  The cruiser market is wide open right now, unless Victory jumps in.
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2015, 02:34:16 AM »

Here's something interesting. The second they came out with the SR, I wondered when we would see the DS version. Looks like the wait is over!
http://blog.motorcycle.com/2015/03/03/motorcycle-category/sportbikes/zero-dsr-zero-fxs-trademarked/
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Re: Zero 2016
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2015, 04:41:33 PM »

I've sold two Zeros now and I can attest that he secondary market stinks :)  I now price at 1/2 new when I update.
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