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[Camresearch]

Hi Guys,

First post here. 

I am getting a dead Zero DS 2010 to restore from my brother.

The problem is that I haven't got any documentation for the bike as he has lost it!! I was hoping to get a PDF of at least the owners manual.  I have looked through the forum and found some links but they had all expired.  A service manual, schematic wiring diagram or any other info would be welcome too.  Not that I have any real hope of finding such information.  I did get a pdf for the motor though so that is a start. 

Thanks in advance,

Cam

[jateureka]

I don't have the 2010, but I do have the 2011 manual as pdf if that is any help.

[Camresearch]

Thanks Jateureka.  I would love to have a look at the 2011 manual.  I think they are quite similar if not basically the same bikes as the 2010.  Best to email me anything you guys have in pdf stuff.  I can use all the help I can get on this one. 

Thanks Guys and a special thanks to those who have already provided some critical help.

If anybody has anything at all that may help in pdf form about these Zeros, really any model may help give me a few ideas, please email me at camresearch@dodo.com.au

Thanks again people. 

[protomech]

The 2011 S/DS are a little bit different. The battery is the same voltage but has more Ah, the motor uses ducted cooling, the styling is a little different, and Zero switched to belt drive.

But the powertrain should otherwise be identical, so for example error indicators are likely to be the same.

[trikester]

When I bought my 2010 DS the owner's manual came as a printed booklet (ah - the good old days). At that time they didn't have it in digital form but maybe they did that later. I got one of the first 2010's because I had been waiting for two years with a deposit on my order.

Trikester

[Camresearch]

Yeah my brother had the manual "somewhere", which doesn't help me much.  He is looking for it and may yet find it.  I am not holding my breathe on that one anyway.  I have a good idea about the bike now and it's construction and wiring, thanks to people sending me stuff.  Thanks again to all those who have aided in the restoration so far.

Cheers,
Cam 

[trikester]

Wish I could help. When I sold my 2010 DS the manual went with it.

Trikester

[Camresearch]

Thanks for the thought Trikester.  I am sure I have enough info now to make more than a decent start on repairing the DS. 

This forum itself is a valuable store house of useful information and the group is really helpful.  I am sure if I run into any problems that most of my questions, if not all can be answered by the great people right here.     It seems like many in the group know their various bikes down to their last nut and wire.  Some like me, are even the nut attached to the handle bars

Cam 

[jateureka]

You can also download the controller manual from the Alltrax website and the Agni motor manual from Jozztek I think. Jozztek also have service and repair videos for the Agni.

[Camresearch]

Thanks Jat for the heads up.  I have a couple of sources of info now.  I am always happy to get more.  Knowledge is power and that sounds about right with an EV bike

Cam 

[Camresearch]

Thanks to everybody who has sent me information.  I really appreciate all the help that has been given so freely by people on this forum.  You guys are a great bunch.  I won't name names about who sent me exactly what, for various reasons but you all know who you are, and thank you all very much, there is now a DS here that should live again thanks to you all.

I wish manufacturers of any equipment would give more technical information about their products freely.  Other manufacturers don't need their service manuals to reverse engineer their stuff, they would just buy one and take it apart, nut by nut.  It only hurts the end users. 

I think too, their reputation for reliability would improve, if people knew just how their bikes were put together.  Many minor repairs could be done before becoming major issues.  Lets face it too, there would be many people who would look at the manual and decide they don't have the time, inclination or special tools to do the job themselves but wouldn't then wonder why the service to fix a problem had cost what it did, when they understood what would have to be done to fix a problem.  Win - Win as far as I see it for the manufacturers.  They still get most of the service business but they have happier customers, who can keep their own bikes on the road more, rather than sitting dead somewhere waiting to be fixed when they can be taken for service somewhere (often 100s of Kms away!!!)  My nearest dealer is towards the North side of the state (Australian States = BIG)  NSW in my case, for those who know that is Gosford way north of Sydney for the dealer and I am in Mittagong, in the southern highlands, way south of Sydney.  If a zero was your only vehicle and you needed it fixed, then you are stuffed.

If they are worried about people electrocuting themselves, then wouldn't it be less likely if they actually had a wiring diagram.  People are often going to try themselves to fix a problem, with or without the information to do the job.  It would be much safer if they could actually know what it is they are touching!!!

Anyway guys, thanks again for all the information.  I feel right now for info. 

Cheers,
Cam   

[Richard230]

Great news, Cam!  I think the issue is the same for most small "startup" companies that are funded by private investors and do not have a lot of patents on their designs (or a lot of lawyers) yet.  They are just worried about other companies using their designs for their own products and want to minimize any chance of that happening by keeping as much of their designs hidden from public view, including their customers.  Such is life in the manufacturing business. 

[CrashCash]

Plus I think Zero is hopping to get everything done and manufactured... for example they don't have the 2015 owner's manuals, rack instructions, etc out yet. At a small company still on a thin margin, you can't hire tons of people, as much as you might need 'em.

[protomech]

Plus I think Zero is hopping to get everything done and manufactured... for example they don't have the 2015 owner's manuals, rack instructions, etc out yet. At a small company still on a thin margin, you can't hire tons of people, as much as you might need 'em.

The 2015 S/SR/DS manual is up on their website. The FX manual is not, at least of a few days ago.

[Cortezdtv]

Plus I think Zero is hopping to get everything done and manufactured... for example they don't have the 2015 owner's manuals, rack instructions, etc out yet. At a small company still on a thin margin, you can't hire tons of people, as much as you might need 'em.

The 2015 S/SR/DS manual is up on their website. The FX manual is not, at least of a few days ago.

Lmao
If only the true came out what happened to the manuals