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[Richard230]

Although I like the idea of the powertank, I would much rather have the storage compartment. (And the additional acceleration that comes with the lighter bike) The storage compartment is one of my favorite features of the bike. It's so convenient and I use it everyday. I think the range of the 11.4 is good enough. I've never really had a situation where the powertank would have been worth its $2k price tag. Anything more than 100 miles is most likely going to a road trip and the powertank wouldn't be enough to make it "convenient" anyway.

Just my $0.02

The storage bay was replaced with this RKA seat pack. See attached photo.  With me living near the Santa Cruz Mountains and loving to ride up there and into the State parks and many hiking areas in the hills, the extra range that the power tank promised would really expand my recreational riding envelope.  Quiet and redwood trees just seem to go together.   

[Richard230]

A friend gave me a "smart phone" that he didn't need anymore and my son-in-law came over last night and downloaded the Zero app that can communicate with my bike to check on and alter its operation.  It showed that with 100% SOC the battery power available was only 10.58 kWh.  That told me that the bike's BMS was not recognizing the additional battery module.  So I took a ride to my Zero dealer and they concurred that there was something wrong.  After a couple of hours of checking and consulting with Zero, it turns out that the BMS on the new battery module was defective and was not communicating with the bike's master BMS.  So a new one was ordered from Zero and will be installed on the "power tank" module.  The tech said that should only take about 30 minutes and hopefully that should solve my current range anxiety. 

Sunny and warm weather is being predicted for the next week, so I am looking forward to riding my ZF 11.4 S this week and next weekend, which hopefully soon should be a ZF 14.2 model.   

[Burton]

You think they would test these before sending them out 0_0

I use to assemble mad manufacture laboratory equipment and we would beat the crap out of our gear before sending it off to ensure it was up to snuff.

[Richard230]

You think they would test these before sending them out 0_0

I use to assemble mad manufacture laboratory equipment and we would beat the crap out of our gear before sending it off to ensure it was up to snuff.

My dealer said the same thing.  They said that Zero typically tests the equipment that goes into their bikes and they were surprised that a failure like this had occurred. Naturally, they said that they had never run into this sort of electronic hardware failure before.  However, it didn't surprise me, as whenever I get around any electronic equipment it seems to go bad.  I can even make grocery store cash registers go nuts.      I guess this one just slipped by Zero's QC.   

[NoiseBoy]

You think they would test these before sending them out 0_0

I use to assemble mad manufacture laboratory equipment and we would beat the crap out of our gear before sending it off to ensure it was up to snuff.

This gives me the image of you cackling in your secret lair with spikey electrified hair. "with this new mad laboratory equipment the world will soon be mine!".

Exactly how I imagine DoctorBass to look before he posted videos

[Doctorbass]

You think they would test these before sending them out 0_0

I use to assemble mad manufacture laboratory equipment and we would beat the crap out of our gear before sending it off to ensure it was up to snuff.

This gives me the image of you cackling in your secret lair with spikey electrified hair. "with this new mad laboratory equipment the world will soon be mine!".

Exactly how I imagine DoctorBass to look before he posted videos

Yeah!.. Difficylt to have hair look like that when you nearly have no hair     

But it's great to hear your impressions =)

[Arun Kalavakolanu]

I finally picked up my Zero S ZF14.2 today.  It was not cheap.  Shipping and set-up charges were $700 (distance to factory is about 90 miles, but I assume that is a flat-rate charge) and I was charged an additional $220 for the installation of the power tank....

Long time visitor/lurker, first time poster.

Not sure if it is appropriate to ask this, but ask I will anyway!

Did you pay the MSRP of $17,490 plus the above charges ? I am just trying to figure out if there is room for negotiation and if so, what others have been able to do. I am looking to buy the same configuration as Richard (2014 ZF11 with power tank). And the screen & top luggage box accessory.

I want to go to the local dealer with as much information & educated negotiation capability as possible.
What (if any) reduction in price can I expect/negotiate ?

So, should I expect to pay a total of $20,750 (ouch!) with the following breakdown -

MSRP   ---------------------->$17,490 
Transportation & set up --->$      700
Power tank Installation ---> $      200   
Luggage Top box         ---->$      600
Windscreen ---------------->$      200
Sales Tax @ 6%(FL)------->      1157
Title/Registration/DMV fee->        200
Insurance for the year------>       200 (Guesstimate...)

Now that I have detailed out the potential cost,  I am beginning to think my negotiations with my wife are going to be tougher than previously anticipated !  Wish me luck.

[Mike Werner]

Not knowing how it is in your part of the world, but I'm guessing it'll similar all over the world, it's a question of timing. If you go and buy in the dealer's busy season, good luck. But if you buy for example during the winter, low season, you have a far better chance of getting them to spring for many of the extra costs. The closer you get to the end of the year, the better, since they want to close their books as high as possible, and fulfil any quotas.

[Richard230]

I finally picked up my Zero S ZF14.2 today.  It was not cheap.  Shipping and set-up charges were $700 (distance to factory is about 90 miles, but I assume that is a flat-rate charge) and I was charged an additional $220 for the installation of the power tank....

Long time visitor/lurker, first time poster.

Not sure if it is appropriate to ask this, but ask I will anyway!

Did you pay the MSRP of $17,490 plus the above charges ? I am just trying to figure out if there is room for negotiation and if so, what others have been able to do. I am looking to buy the same configuration as Richard (2014 ZF11 with power tank). And the screen & top luggage box accessory.

I want to go to the local dealer with as much information & educated negotiation capability as possible.
What (if any) reduction in price can I expect/negotiate ?

So, should I expect to pay a total of $20,750 (ouch!) with the following breakdown -

MSRP   ---------------------->$17,490 
Transportation & set up --->$      700
Power tank Installation ---> $      200   
Luggage Top box         ---->$      600
Windscreen ---------------->$      200
Sales Tax @ 6%(FL)------->      1157
Title/Registration/DMV fee->        200
Insurance for the year------>       200 (Guesstimate...)

Now that I have detailed out the potential cost,  I am beginning to think my negotiations with my wife are going to be tougher than previously anticipated !  Wish me luck.

That is pretty much what I paid, except our sales tax is 9%.     The dealer was not going to give any deals on the first bike like that sold.  I don't think they are giving any deals at all on any 2014 Zeros until the initial demand drys up.  If you want to save money, hit your dealer in about 6 months and hope that Zero isn't trying to match their production with sales demand and then cut off production when sales slow during the late summer, like they seem to have done last year (which makes good business sense for a small manufacturing company).  Like any new motorcycle purchase, what do you value more, the ability to ride now or saving some money?  Only you can decide that.  I figure when prices go this high, the possibility of saving a thousand dollars or so, isn't all that much - percentage-wise.     Besides, I am not getting any younger.   

[oobflyer]

How are the mirrors Richard? For me (and others) the mirrors on the 2012 were not located out far enough to see behind well. I had to order after-market extenders.

[BSDThw]

I did the same with my 2012DS but now I have my 2013FX mirrors at the 2012DS .

If some one has to replace a defect one - I would go for a 2013 Mirror.

[ultrarnr]

The mirrors on my SR are fine, no issues at all. I test rode a 2011 Zero S so I know how bad the old ones sucked. The mirrors on my SR do stick out far enough that if the bike falls over I am not sure they will survive.

[protomech]

Harlan has 2013 mirrors if you don't want to go barend on your 2012, they're not terribly expensive.

[benswing]

I also use 2013 mirrors on my 2012.  The ability to see behind me is important and they work great.

[Richard230]

How are the mirrors Richard? For me (and others) the mirrors on the 2012 were not located out far enough to see behind well. I had to order after-market extenders.

One of the first modifications that I made to my 2012 S was to install "extenders" on the mirror stalks.  After that they worked perfectly.

I am happy with the mirrors on my 2014 S.  They are about the same distance out as the 2012 model with the extenders.  For me they are perfectly placed.  I get about an inch on the mirror surface that shows my shoulder and the rest of the mirror shows what is behind me.