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Richard230

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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2014, 05:33:58 AM »

Here is a photo of the wire rats nest under the seat and directly behind the "tank" area.
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2014, 06:54:59 AM »

Thanks for the interesting pictures! I wonder whether that power tank will become a factory option at some point.

I am amused that the lock for the removable "tank bag" remains. It would be very hard to use it for a helmet lock, but I suppose it could be done with a cable. You'll be better served with the top case, for sure. Congrats!
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2014, 07:30:22 AM »

I thought that was a helmet lock - until I tried to use it.  Fortunately somewhere in my garage I have an aluminum helmet lock extender.  It is shaped like a "T", with a hole in one end.  The "T" section goes through the helmet D-ring and the hole goes through the lock pin.  If I can find it, it should work OK.
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2014, 12:00:51 PM »

Here is a photo of the wire rats nest under the seat and directly behind the "tank" area.

I wonder how the power tank is connected?
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2014, 10:02:54 PM »

Here is a photo of the wire rats nest under the seat and directly behind the "tank" area.

I wonder how the power tank is connected?

I don't know, but I will be happy once I am sure that it actually is connected.   ;)  Right now my display is showing a fully charged bike with an estimated range of 104 miles.

Perhaps someone could post a photo of the same location on a standard model and a comparison of the two photos might give us some idea if there was additional wiring involved.   ???
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2014, 10:24:38 PM »

The estimated range should be based upon riding history.

The ZF14.2 is rated at 106 miles @ 55 mph or 116 miles @ combined (50% 70 mph, 50% city riding) .. have you gotten a chance to perform a longer range test on the bike?
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2014, 10:56:03 PM »



I don't know, but I will be happy once I am sure that it actually is connected.   ;)  Right now my display is showing a fully charged bike with an estimated range of 104 miles.

Perhaps someone could post a photo of the same location on a standard model and a comparison of the two photos might give us some idea if there was additional wiring involved.   ???
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I always thought that it was a connection on the battery pack itself and all it needed was to latch on to the main battery.  But looking at your spaghetti mess in your picture it looks like its connected with the heavy guage orange cable?
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2014, 04:15:13 AM »

The estimated range should be based upon riding history.

The ZF14.2 is rated at 106 miles @ 55 mph or 116 miles @ combined (50% 70 mph, 50% city riding) .. have you gotten a chance to perform a longer range test on the bike?

Right now I am a little disappointed with the range. I just traveled about 20 miles, half freeway and half surface streets. When I returned the display said I used 104 watt/hours per mile and had 57 miles of range left. The watt hours seems about right, but the estimated range ought to be better, I would think. Well, time will tell. I wonder if the BMS is recognizing the additional battery module?  In any case, I need to ride more.   ;)
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2014, 08:07:58 AM »

Excellent looking bike Richard.   I like the Yellow.   It reminds me a little of my last Bueil Ulysses which was a similar color.

I wouldn't worry too much about the range yet.   Get it through several cycles and break it in.

Ride it!
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2014, 08:43:43 AM »

Estimated range is probably going to be wildly inaccurate at first.

A better test would be to take a short-ish ride at a fairly constant speed.

At 70 mph, 10% of the battery should take you 8.8 miles on a ZF14.2, 7.0 miles on a ZF11.4.

At 55 mph, 10% of the battery should take you 10.6 miles on a ZF14.2, 8.5 miles on a ZF11.4.
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2014, 09:23:08 PM »

I am off this morning to give my 2012 S to my daughter and this weekend and on President's Day (I sure am glad that there isn't a Congress Day), I be riding, experimenting and checking out some of Protomech's recommended tests.  I'll report back later.   :)
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2014, 10:39:12 PM »

Richard,

Your new battery pack is a massive one (actually the most powerful in a std. -non prototype-electrical bike every made) the break-in process will take a while...unless -as you pointed out- the system does not recognize the extra battery pack...
A good break in process is to make short rides + charge 5-10 times

Enjoy the bike!!! (I wish I were you)  ;D
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2014, 05:16:20 AM »

Well, the 2014 manual says battery does not need a break in so I am not sure the break in applies here.
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2014, 05:27:09 AM »

 I just returned from a 33-mile ride, about half at freeway speeds and half on surface streets.  Attached is a photo of the display upon arriving home.  I plan to push the envelope further tomorrow with a 60-mile ride.
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Re: 2014 Zero S with power tank
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2014, 06:36:12 AM »

The new dash is awesome!
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