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w34p0n2m4n

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pulled the trigger
« on: May 18, 2013, 11:22:12 PM »

So I got my own Zero S yesterday. Immediately got to experience an entirely new lifestyle.

For a variety of reasons (I'm assuming some dumbass unplugged it) my bike was at half charge when the dealership closed. The plan was to ride it back home roughly 65 miles, mostly freeway, so a half charge wasn't going to cut it. Because I've been thinking about getting this bike for a while, I had already noticed that WalMart puts electrical outlets on the front of their buildings. So I rode over to the nearest WalMart, crossed my fingers, plugged in, and was immediately met with the gratifying blinking charge light. This was the first part of the new lifestyle; keeping careful track of what places are open 24/7 and accessible enough to park a motorcycle. Also, it helps when they have snacks and reading material for when the bike happily informs you that it's going to be charging for three hours.

Eventually the charge light stopped blinking, so it was time to hit the road. And that's when the second part of my new lifestyle made itself felt: range anxiety. I know what Zero SAYS the bike will do, but when there's an awful lot of nothing between you and where you're going, and those battery bars start disappearing every seven miles or so, it gets hard to think about anything else. I did make it to my driveway...with one blinking bar left! Talk about cutting it close. I'll have to experiment, but considering the ride was mostly downhill, and I never went above 60mph, and I stayed crouched over most of the time, and maybe 10 of the miles were at 45mph, I'm thinking that 70 miles at freeway speeds (65-75) is excessively optimistic.

But, now that I'm back in town, I expect the range to not be a problem at all.

It's fun how light and controllable this bike is. I can pull up to a stop sign and come to a complete stop, then keep going, without ever needing to put my foot down for balance. If there's something in the road, I just flick the handlebars and go around it. The bike's in an awkward position? I can just lift one end and swing it around. As a comparison, I rode my Honda Rebel to the dealership (so the same trip in reverse) and when I was done my hands had that weird nerve vibration thing. Of course that doesn't happen with the Zero.

kind of amazing how sneaky the speed is. There's no noise or shift points to feed your intuition about speed.

It does seem like the headlights are pathetically underpowered.

I like the little American flag on the tail :-)
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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013, 03:32:02 AM »

Just a heads up, there's 11 bars on the gauge and in reality there is 12 bars. The 12th bar isn't displayed. So even if you used up that last blinking bar the zero will continue to run for about 10 more miles at ~40mph. But cutting it that close isn't fun. Glad you like the new Zero! If you have an iPhone or android you should check out the app. It gives you a "miles until empty" gauge.
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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2013, 05:12:23 AM »

Welcome to your new addiction!  You're right about the speedo climbing up rather quickly.  Soon you'll get used to the wind noise and can use that as a reasonable gauge for how fast you're going.  Also, we riders will have to train the dealers to make sure every bike has a full charge.  I have a dealer within 20 miles, and received my 2012 Zero S with half a charge, but made it with no worries.

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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2013, 09:23:38 AM »

Regarding range: the dealership gave me some instructions from Zero for the break-in period of the first 30 charge cycles. Supposedly if I do this right then I will realize up to an extra 10% in capacity and range. The instructions which seem important seem to be that for the first 30 charges, always ride to discharge at least 30% before recharge and never ride to total discharge within that 30 charge break in period. I am only on my 8th charge cycle so I have no idea how it will be after 30 charges. Did you receive this info from your dealer? I will post it if anyone needs it.

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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2013, 09:45:16 AM »

That's not in the owner's manual. I would like to know where your dealer is getting his information.
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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2013, 10:46:02 AM »

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That's not in the owner's manual. I would like to know where your dealer is getting his information.

Probably from the instructions that came with his rechargeable Ni-Cad flashlight. ;D

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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2013, 04:34:45 PM »

I had that same info about the 30 cycles from my dealer, it was on a separate piece of Zero headed paper along with the Limited edition certificate, logbook and USB stick etc.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2013, 04:55:32 PM »

I wonder why not all the dealers are giving this information out. I asked mine about any break-in and he said there wasn't any.
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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2013, 05:31:49 PM »

Hi
on my 2011 it was an easy job to convert the headlight to a trucklite phase 7 LED. much better light - love it. not sure what can fit and work in the newer models.

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2013, 08:29:45 PM »

My headlight (2013 S) is an H4. I'm curious to see an led equivalent. I know they exist, I just haven't seen one in person.
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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2013, 06:12:13 PM »

I had that same info about the 30 cycles from my dealer, it was on a separate piece of Zero headed paper along with the Limited edition certificate, logbook and USB stick etc.

Same here: a single separate paper with Zero letterhead. I did not receive anything else from Zero as far as certificate, logbook etc. There is also another sheet about extremes of temperature and storage with regard to batteries as well as a sheet on how to clean the Zero S.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2013, 07:22:48 PM »

Where would one get these other sheets?  The website?
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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2013, 09:58:18 PM »

For the 2013, you do not need to worry about a charging cycle for the first 30 charges. That only applies to some of the older year models. You can download an owner's manual directly from the Zero's website for your 2013 S.
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/owner-resources/

There is no break in period mentioned for the battery. Just keep the bike charged up when not riding. Your battery will be fine. I suspect that some dealers are just not up on the most current information for the new models. And up on providing a bike that is fully charged. My dealer here in Colorado, Grand Prix Motorsports, made sure my bike had a full charge when I purchased it.

Just for fun and to experience what it would be like to run out of charge, I rode my bike through the blinking lights all the way down to no bars. My bike still ran for quite a good while with no bars showing. So there is definitely a good reserve to help you in those tight situations. By doing this, I lessened any feelings of range anxiety I might have had otherwise.

When you get down to 2 blinking bars, don't panic. :) Just consider that the low fuel light you would get on a car. Hopefully at that point, you are close to your destination but you still have some power left in the batteries.

I would also recommend adding an extra extension cord stored on your bike for those situations where you do need to charge away from home and the black cord provided for the bike is not long enough. I rode my bike last Friday from Denver up into the mountains (amazing ride) to BlackHawk and Central City. There are casinos up there. I parked in a casino parking garage close to an outlet. I topped off my charge while walking around town. I would have been fine with the charge for the return trip, but that extra top off just gave me a little extra insurance and piece of mind.
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Re: pulled the trigger
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2013, 10:18:11 PM »

Eventually the charge light stopped blinking, so it was time to hit the road. And that's when the second part of my new lifestyle made itself felt: range anxiety. I know what Zero SAYS the bike will do, but when there's an awful lot of nothing between you and where you're going, and those battery bars start disappearing every seven miles or so, it gets hard to think about anything else. I did make it to my driveway...with one blinking bar left! Talk about cutting it close. I'll have to experiment, but considering the ride was mostly downhill, and I never went above 60mph, and I stayed crouched over most of the time, and maybe 10 of the miles were at 45mph, I'm thinking that 70 miles at freeway speeds (65-75) is excessively optimistic.

Congrats on the new bike!

As DesignerDan says, there's a small amount of charge available even when you see 0 bars remaining. With 1 blinking bar you should be between 25% and 16% charge remaining. The smartphone app should tell you a more exact number.

Experience riding the bike (and publicly available charging) will help a lot with range anxiety. I still plan out longer trips that will take me down to the last 20%, but most of the time it's hop on and ride.
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2013, 08:26:39 PM »

Isn't there a potential for battery damage if you run right down to nothing? Isn't that why there's still some charge when it shows zero?
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