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Author Topic: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out  (Read 15505 times)

RickSteeb

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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #105 on: August 20, 2013, 07:03:07 PM »

Got back from my sailing trip  . . . spoke to Brock at Zero . . .  they have had the bike for 7 weeks now  . . . I think he said they have "refurbished" and "weatherproofed" the motor, updated the controller, replaced the kill switch and throttle and should be ready to ship the bike this week . . . . still waiting for confirmation.

Miss my Zero!

--Karl
Same situation here, except I got the recalled brake-bolts fixed instead of new kill-switch/throttle... and it's been three weeks of car-commuting for me! 

Miss my Zero!   :'(
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #106 on: August 23, 2013, 10:23:45 AM »

. . . still waiting for confirmation.

--Karl

. . . *still* waiting for confirmation.

Miss my Zero!   :'(
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #107 on: August 23, 2013, 09:48:42 PM »

Should be picking up my Zero tomorrow. Will also test ride a 2013 Zero .. be interested to see how it compares.
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #108 on: August 24, 2013, 01:13:27 AM »

Have fun testing the 2013 but be warned you will get a little virus, it tells you I will have this bike.

I just can fight this virus with logic that my 2012 give me all what I actually need :)
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #109 on: August 24, 2013, 08:55:31 AM »

Ah ha. They've actually sold their 2013 that was on the floor two months ago. My loss is another person's gain!
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #110 on: August 26, 2013, 09:55:07 PM »

Got my S back. Motor is perfect now! Put ~20 miles on it yesterday.

- new motor (original damaged in shipping :'(, was sent back to Zero to replace/repot the encoder)
- MBB firmware updated
- controller firmware updated

There's a little bit of a ticking noise - suspect it is belt related.
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #111 on: August 26, 2013, 11:51:24 PM »

I'm jealous.  They finally put the bike in a box in Scott's Valley last Friday (after discovering that a bearing on e replacement motor was shot and finding another replacement motor).  I was supposed to have the bike in hand by Friday . .  .  But the Estes tracking number indicates a September 3 "appointment" date.  That will make ten weeks from dropping the bike off with the dealer and having it back.  Will I hold the record, then?

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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #112 on: August 27, 2013, 01:43:02 AM »

  That will make ten weeks from dropping the bike off with the dealer and having it back.  Will I hold the record, then?

Is the record strictly for 2012 S/DS glitch fixes? I've got 14 weeks for a 2012 XU BMS replacement ;D

Kidding aside, hope everyone gets their bikes back...
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #113 on: August 28, 2013, 08:12:43 AM »

  That will make ten weeks from dropping the bike off with the dealer and having it back.  Will I hold the record, then?

Is the record strictly for 2012 S/DS glitch fixes? I've got 14 weeks for a 2012 XU BMS replacement ;D

Kidding aside, hope everyone gets their bikes back...

Yay, got my '12 DS back yesterday, and it's been running flawlessly since.  [4 weeks down time]

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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #114 on: August 29, 2013, 04:09:50 AM »

My FZ( is making these glitch many times furing each ride now... :(

Making each new ride more dangerous.... :o

IT IS 100% sure now: My bike HAVE TO BE FIXED and UPDATED...!

Unfortunatly i feel  it is not all the dealers that have the right skill to understand these new electric technology.

I think i'll have to do the glitch repair by myself since i have played and built electric bikes for over 6 years now and that i have my own lab. I just dont have the zero interface.....

I called our North East service tech (Chris Langlois) about that and he agreed to help me tomorrow  by phone to diagnose the problem using the Zero  software interface tool and to send him the log file.

btw Does anyone could get pictures of the poting on the  motor encoder and on the BMS and MBB ?

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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #115 on: August 29, 2013, 06:25:55 PM »

I'm wondering if re-calibrating the motor to the controller should be considered part of the maintaince schedule for the ZF9, as it seems that over time the encoder will drift out of calibration.

This is the sort of thing I'd be happy to do myself, if I had the tools.
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #116 on: August 29, 2013, 09:27:33 PM »

The encoder drift applies to all S and DS models, not just ZF9.

Agree that we should have access to the tools to do this. It's not exactly a trivial operation, but I don't think it will be beyond us.
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #117 on: August 30, 2013, 01:35:27 AM »

I'm wondering if re-calibrating the motor to the controller should be considered part of the maintaince schedule for the ZF9, as it seems that over time the encoder will drift out of calibration.

This is the sort of thing I'd be happy to do myself, if I had the tools.

I did that few times using the Calsincos option on the  MBB  with my laptop.. but I still get the glitch trouble...  The calsincos calibration option on the MBB set the max and min o fthe sinusoidal amplitude value of the encoder. We have to turn manually the wheel a little bit to have it to record the value.


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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #118 on: August 30, 2013, 02:20:32 AM »

The Zero Tech I spoke with made it seem like the tools will only ever be available to the dealer, not the end-user. Which I guess is fine if warranty fixes/repairs are handled quickly, or if you dislike working on your own vehicles...
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Re: 2012 S zf6 Motor cutting out
« Reply #119 on: August 30, 2013, 05:09:39 AM »

The Zero Tech I spoke with made it seem like the tools will only ever be available to the dealer, not the end-user.

That's what they said about the Triumph dealer-only tools, now you can buy two aftermarket versions, one free except for the cable.

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