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[lolachampcar]

Just for grins, here is one comment from one of Musk's latest conference calls=

Roadster update: Tesla shipped 68 Roadsters in the third quarter and expects to do “a decent business” selling used Roadsters now that the car has been out for a few years, Musk said. Tesla has a staff dedicated to managing the used Roaster business.

[Richard230]

So Tesla is managing used electric "Roasters" now?     I can tell that it is getting close to turkey day.     It is tough to keep your mind on EV's when a turkey is roasting in the oven.   

[protomech]

CPO electric cars should be pretty lucrative.

Refurbish the interior, do a comprehensive battery health check, replace any weak cells or replace the entire battery if necessary, sell as like-new. Offer a warranty sufficient to cover quibbles.

[lolachampcar]

Even cheaper on a Zero.  Take a one year old Zero and bring the warranty back to full force (basically, one more year on the battery) and let the dealer make money moving it.  The CPO upcharge will be more than offset by the sales tax credit the original buyer will see.  The dealer has access to customers so the bikes move faster at a higher price point.

Zero, this is a profit center that lowers cost of ownership.  Dealers, more units moved.

[Lipo423]

The data comes from Zero...Where did I get them? that's a different business 

The good news with the FX is that you save on tires...can actually use only the rear one  you have to be careful with the throttle...which is great...I want one...I will get one 

Have not seen the Brammo numbers, but the FX is difficult to beat

[trikester]

I've already picked out the Kenda model K270 (dual-sport dirt) tires I'll put on my FX (FXU actually) that is already on order.   5.1" x 18 rear and 3.25" x 21 front. For where I do most of my riding I like big tires. The K270 series work well in the dirt and sand without costing me too much highway mileage. They last "forever" and are relatively cheap.

Trikester

[Lipo423]

Are you getting the FX motor on the XU?
As far as I remember it comes as std. with a 250A controller and a smaller motor

[protomech]

Have not seen the Brammo numbers

I've heard between 4-5s 0-60 for the Empulse. Shorter gearing helps (1st gear is good for 60 mph), but weight hurts.

Both the XU and FX come with the 75-5 motor, which has slightly more peak torque but falls off more quickly than the larger 75-7 motor in the MX / S / DS.

[Richard230]

I just received the December issue of Motorcycle Consumer News.  They test the new 2013 Kawasaki Ninja 300 ABS and say it is a big improvement over the 250 Ninja.  It makes a maximum of 34.77 hp @ 11k rpm and 17.46 lb-ft of torque @ 9,750 rpm.  Redline is 12,500 rpm. Weight is up to 385 pounds and 0-60 times are down to 6.41 seconds.  The quarter mile goes by in 14.67 seconds at 87.7 mph. Top speed is 106 mph.  Average mpg is 54.1 on regular fuel and its price has gone up to $5499, with ABS and the $200 more SE graphics.  It will be interesting to see how the performance of the 2013 Brammo and Zero models compare with this new bike.

I hope they perform a comparison test between the Empulse and the Zero S next year.

[trikester]

Are you getting the FX motor on the XU?
As far as I remember it comes as std. with a 250A controller and a smaller motor

I'll say it again!

I'm getting an FX and swaping the three FX suspension parts for the three XU suspension parts. I can't quite understand why some have thought I would start with the XU and up convert so many of its parts (controller, wheel & tires, etc.) to the FX parts. That would not be very smart on my part, would it? Once again, it will be the FX sitting on the XU suspension. Only three parts swapped (if you don't count my conversion of the FX to chain drive).

Trikester