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Author Topic: A word to the wise about regen braking  (Read 1370 times)

trikester

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A word to the wise about regen braking
« on: July 19, 2012, 10:35:58 AM »

It makes sense when you think about it but I hadn't thought about it.

I charged my bike in a new location that had, right at the start, a steep paved descent with a stop sign right at the bottom, still on the slope. I was surprised when I had no regen braking to help hold my speed down to a level that would let me stop at the bottom. I had to do some heavy drag braking on both brakes, all the way down. :o

The explanation for the lack of regen is straight forward, but I didn't think about it until I was headed down the steep hill. When in the regen braking mode the motor is used as a generator and sends current into the battery. That in turn puts an electrical load on the motor/generator which puts a drag on the rolling of the bike. When the battery is fully charged it won't accept current from the motor/generator and therefore no drag load is put on the rolling of the wheels.

I noticed a little farther along in the ride that the regen braking started coming in - in little spurts - as the battery, now powering the bike on level road, started accepting bits of charging current, when I would roll off the throttle. Then a little farther down the road, the regen was steady since the battery had used more of its initial charge.

So, if your battery is fully charged, don't expect help from ECO mode deceleration, right at the very start of the ride. :P Maybe the owner's manual warns about this, but I haven't noticed it. ???

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« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 10:38:43 AM by trikester »
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frodus

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Re: A word to the wise about regen braking
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 12:00:23 AM »

That's what I don't like about these controllers. There's no way to hook up a dynamic braking (DB) resistor on them. On industrial drives they have the ability to hook up a braking resistor on them. It gets connected when the DC LINK voltage goes above a certain setpoint and bleeds it off as heat. It wouldn't be hard to do, but they don't offer it.

One possibility is maybe getting a a brake resistor and build a brake chopper for lower voltage. They're used in industrial stuff all the time.
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Re: A word to the wise about regen braking
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 04:05:05 AM »

Trikester. That's not the issue.

I posted exactly about the same problem. The fact is that if you start rolling down immediately from your point of parking (regardless of battery charge), the regen won't work unless you slightly open and close throttle. Even for 1/2 sec. Somebody explained that it is about a sensor needing to know what the status of the motor is before it can accept the charge coming from the regen.
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trikester

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Re: A word to the wise about regen braking
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 09:36:18 AM »

I know about the throttle and I always open and close (blip) it to start the regen so that is not the issue here, it was battery charge. In fact I had to ride from my charging location, using the throttle, for about 50 level feet before starting the steep descent.

On my mountain dirt rides where I switch often between SPORT and ECO, depending on whether I want coasting or regen deceleration, I always blip the throttle to kick in the mode I just changed to.
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