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[Richard230]

The Zero advertizing department continues to actively promote their products.  They are having a test ride day at all of their dealers on May 19th.  Read more here:  http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/2012/zero-motorcycles-national-demo-day

[manlytom]

great. sadly not here ... no bikes in shops at the moment ! We need some demo stock.

[Lipo423]

I'm afraid they cannot build them fast enough  as far as I know they have got huge demand

[ColoPaul]

The salesguy at our local Denver dealer told me Zero is giving out $200 precharged Visa cards to anyone that buys on Demo Day.  This Sat, May 19th I think.

[af1 racing]

The salesguy at our local Denver dealer told me Zero is giving out $200 precharged Visa cards to anyone that buys on Demo Day.  This Sat, May 19th I think.

that is correct, a $200 pre-paid Visa card for any Zero purchased from now until the end of the month.  If you go by the Zero spec sheet and the average price of electricity, they say its good for 25,000 miles of free riding.

"Complete Disclaimer:
*25,000 miles based on the 2012 ZF9 Zero Motorcycle S model at $.10 USD per kwh for $.90 per complete charge cycle and 222 charges with 114 miles range per complete charge cycle for a total of $199.80. A $200 (USD) Visa gift card will be sent 4-6 weeks after Zero Motorcycles receives the vehicle warranty registration card showing date of sale between May 15, 2012 and May 31, 2012. Warranty cards must be received in Zero Motorcycle’s offices no later than June 7, 2012 to be eligible for the Visa card and cards must note customer acceptance of the incentive offer of the Visa Card.  Offer available only through participating US dealerships. Cannot be used towards the purchase of the motorcycle, taxes or destination fees.  Cannot be combined with any other promotional offer with exception of Zero Motorcycles retail finance program offered through Freedom Road Financial. Program expires May 31, 2012.

[CliC]

that is correct, a $200 pre-paid Visa card for any Zero purchased from now until the end of the month.  If you go by the Zero spec sheet and the average price of electricity, they say its good for 25,000 miles of free riding.

More likely, one or two free farkles

[Richard230]

Ultimate Motorcycling picked up the story:  http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/2012/zero-motorcycles-launches-summer-promotion

[Nukie]

The salesguy at our local Denver dealer told me Zero is giving out $200 precharged Visa cards to anyone that buys on Demo Day.  This Sat, May 19th I think.

Thanks for the heads up. I am surprised my sales guy has not contacted me about this promotion seeing how i am in the market for a Zero here in Denver. He assured me he would contact me with any special offers or promotions.

[ColoPaul]

Well, for 300 sunny days/year here in Colo - our Zero Demo day was pouring rain. 
I went down to Grand Prix (our dealer), and talked with Keith? Kevin? (I suck at names) who was from the factory.
He's worked there since early 2010.  Great guy!  Glad he came out.

Tidbits from the conversation:
He (and others) monitor this forum.  We discussed some of the threads.  For example, the guy that glued 3 extra chargers to his bike.
They are going to ship ~1500-2000 bikes this year.
The S & DS are the best sellers.
He owns a 2010 S, and rides to work occasionally (something about he's not comfortable riding on his standard commute route)
He thinks Zero is a great place to work.  Very upbeat on the company.
Told me the TTXGP race mods consisted of disabling the regeneration (keeping the motor cooler), and sprocket/belt size changes. Very little, actually.
I asked about the 2013 models, if they would be another giant leap the way the 2012 was over the 2011 models.  He said (delicately) "It's a balance between improving and leveraging existing designs.  There will definitely be significant improvements."
He talked about all the remote diagnostics they can do.  The little rubber plug in front - if removed - provides a link to the CAN bus - and the dealer service people have an adapter that will hook your bike right to the factory through the internet - they can then download all kinds of riding history, warnings and failures.  Pretty cool!

[craigq]

I asked about the 2013 models, if they would be another giant leap the way the 2012 was over the 2011 models.  He said (delicately) "It's a balance between improving and leveraging existing designs.  There will definitely be significant improvements."

Awww crap! Thanks for all of the insider info. I was hoping 2013 would be minor improvements over 2012, not "significant improvements"...

[dkw12002]

Yes, you would probably like improvements in areas that you could have the option of upgrading your bike. Thing is though, they need to improve range, acceleration, and top speed. I think they are going to have to re-design to do that. I see a bigger battery and water cooling. Maybe the same motor though, but if they do that, you wouldn't be able to add a battery or a cooling system. That's just a guess though based on the competition. God, I hope they don't go to gears. I like NOT shifting.

[protomech]

Yes, you would probably like improvements in areas that you could have the option of upgrading your bike. Thing is though, they need to improve range, acceleration, and top speed. I think they are going to have to re-design to do that. I see a bigger battery and water cooling. Maybe the same motor though, but if they do that, you wouldn't be able to add a battery or a cooling system. That's just a guess though based on the competition. God, I hope they don't go to gears. I like NOT shifting.

I think we'll see small improvements in acceleration and highway energy consumption and a big improvement in charge time .. probably a small price drop too. I think they will reuse the ZF3 battery module next year. (ZF9 = 3 ZF3 modules)

Brammo has pretty effectively priced themselves out of a direct comparison with Zero, especially if Zero can drop their prices slightly. I think the 2012 bikes are outclassed at $14k, but small improvements and a price drop may give a lot of Empulse buyers that are looking for a commute bike second thoughts.

[Richard230]

It looks to me like the Enertia Plus is going to be Brammo's closest competitor to the Zero line.  All they have to do is to start delivering the bikes.   

[dkw12002]

Brammo advertises the Enertia+ at $11,000 with a range of 80 miles and top speed of 60+ mph which would underperform the 2012 Zero S by quite a bit. I can't find anything about a 2012/13 Enertia+ though. This company has a history of not bringing products to market, so I won't hold my breath. Zero, on the other hand delivers quite well. I would like to see a bunch of different electric bike makes and models to choose from, but the market is not there yet. I am awaiting critiques of the Empulse too. Apparently there are a few out there for motorcycle magazines to ride and review, but none to buy yet and no reviews either. 

[Lipo423]

I would be really surprised if they make mayor changes in the bike...(Zero S model), unless they get a huge ROIC
I'm more in line with Protomech...see changes/improvements as:
- Charging
- Braking system
- Suspension system eventually
- Software tricks (acceleration, Regeneration)
- More added value options (lights, luggage, warmers, mirrors, etc...)
- Eventually more battery capacity - but I see this as a last option, as they would be challenged with bike overall cost.

As they are starting to get the sales volume, they could squeeze their suppliers, and get an overall improved bike with the same price