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Author Topic: White Motorcycle Concepts helps Zero boost efficiency  (Read 1320 times)

princec

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Re: White Motorcycle Concepts helps Zero boost efficiency
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2024, 04:07:20 PM »

I'd like to see some serious wind tunnel work along the lines of the ZZR1100... a bike that did 172mph with just 125bhp. When ridden at normal road speeds it managed 60mpg too. Extraordinary aero efficiency not matched since.

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Re: White Motorcycle Concepts helps Zero boost efficiency
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2024, 08:24:33 PM »

I'd like to see some serious wind tunnel work along the lines of the ZZR1100... a bike that did 172mph with just 125bhp. When ridden at normal road speeds it managed 60mpg too. Extraordinary aero efficiency not matched since.

Cas :)

Speaking of aero efficiency, what about the 1991 BMW K1? It was very aerodynamically efficient - but that didn't help it much when it came to customer interest and sales.  ::)
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Re: White Motorcycle Concepts helps Zero boost efficiency
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2024, 11:08:21 PM »

It was also sadly hideous in that way only BMW seem to manage.

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Re: White Motorcycle Concepts helps Zero boost efficiency
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2024, 03:51:12 AM »

Assuming this duct thing is a genuine way to boost range/efficiency, I wonder what an Experia would average with one incorporated into the design, and maybe even some deflectors (shaped for touring rather than track use) and the most aerodynamic possible windscreen design that still allows a comfortable riding position. If they can get down to 110 Wh/mi, that would mean almost 180 highway miles on existing battery density.

Now, I know you can’t keep the existing 22.5 kWh pack shape and also add a big duct, I’m just stating what could be possible. Hell, maybe you could even use the duct to cool the cells in a more grandiose version of the 13.4’s center channel. The pack will barely break a sweat at 110 Wh/mi, too, so you could count on consistent 23 kW charge rates in temperate weather.
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White Motorcycle Concepts helps Zero boost efficiency
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2024, 09:56:36 PM »

Could also do with a proper belt guard, like that fitted to the DSR/X, the Livewire and all belt drive Harleys. Perhaps that's why there seems to be a belt snapping issue.
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Re: White Motorcycle Concepts helps Zero boost efficiency
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2024, 05:42:28 PM »

Hell, maybe you could even use the duct to cool the cells in a more grandiose version of the 13.4’s center channel.
That is a brilliant idea. Get cool air in the front, heat it up, expel it out back. That is basically the description of a jet engine.  ;D

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