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MVetter

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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2023, 01:30:02 PM »

Yeah Guido showed me prototypes of the app and screens several years ago. I don't see anything on the iOS store but that doesn't necessarily mean anything because Energica discontinued their app overall as well.

 Every other manufacturer allows the bike's settings to be altered live in person while riding i.e they do not require an app to fully control their motorcycle. I would, personally, prefer not to require an app to use my bike and I can't think of anyone other than Lightning to make their bikes that way.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2023, 01:48:50 PM »

Every other manufacturer allows the bike's settings to be altered live in person while riding i.e they do not require an app to fully control their motorcycle. I would, personally, prefer not to require an app to use my bike and I can't think of anyone other than Lightning to make their bikes that way.
   Sorry if I was not clear in my explanation.  I am under the impression that all the settings for the bike can be made from the dash display or the phone app.  It looks like they are just giving you two methods for bike setup and review charging info.  I don't think the phone app is a requirement, just a handy tool to pull down data.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2023, 02:09:54 PM »

Unless there are changes that is exactly my understanding. The only way to adjust ride modes, regen, or other settings is via phone app. That was what was advertised publicly. If they've made updates to that I'd be interested to know.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2023, 01:35:23 PM »

Unless there are changes that is exactly my understanding. The only way to adjust ride modes, regen, or other settings is via the phone app. That was what was advertised publicly. If they've made updates to that I'd be interested to know.
   I hope to pick up my new bike right after Thanksgiving and will review the console control.
I'll try to take a few screenshots of the console and phone apps.
It will keep me busy after I recover from my food coma.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2023, 11:42:59 PM »

Since there's no app on the iOS or Android store, at least that I could find with a cursory search, do they presumably load one on your phone during pickup?
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2023, 11:50:42 PM »

The only way to get non-released, unvetted apps onto an iPhone is to put them in the Apple TestFlight program.  Which is really sketchy for a supposedly retail release.  There is no way to search for apps that are in TestFlight, it's invitation only.

Changing modes in an app while riding is absolutely stupid.  I change modes while riding on EVERY ride, multiple times.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #66 on: November 22, 2023, 12:49:09 AM »

I change modes while riding on EVERY ride, multiple times.

   What bike do you have?  Are the mode and regen changes available via the handlebar or do you have to
go into a dash menu to select modes or regen?  Can this be done while you are riding, or do you have to stop to change the acceleration and regen modes?

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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #67 on: November 22, 2023, 01:29:18 AM »

I found a nice switch setup for controlling modes and such.
It will take a bit of wiring and a CAN bus interface, but I think it can be done.   :P

I do hope everyone can see I am kidding..  ;D
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #68 on: November 22, 2023, 02:36:16 AM »

I change modes while riding on EVERY ride, multiple times.

   What bike do you have?  Are the mode and regen changes available via the handlebar or do you have to
go into a dash menu to select modes or regen?  Can this be done while you are riding, or do you have to stop to change the acceleration and regen modes?

2023 SR/S.  You press and hold the mode button for half a second, then toggle it left/right to choose one of five modes loaded on the bike, then press in to select.  You can do this while riding, and I do multiple times every ride.  You have to close the throttle to activate, for a split second.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2023, 11:37:46 AM »

I believe you can do the traction control from that screen as well, and the next screen you can play with regen settings and some other things.

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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #70 on: November 28, 2023, 02:42:25 AM »

Hey Apollo, did you ever get your Strike R?  If so, how is it?  We're dying for videos!
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #71 on: November 28, 2023, 02:52:10 AM »

Hey Apollo, did you ever get your Strike R?  If so, how is it?  We're dying for videos!

  No, I have received it yet.  I went over to the shop and took a look at the bike, which was almost finished.
I asked about a couple of minor paint defects that they hadn't noticed.  They immediately took the fairing off the bike and started the schedule for the paint fix, gloss coat, and repolish.  They seemed nonplused about letting a paint defect go unnoticed, but happy I pointed it out before I came for pickup.  They also asked me to review and let them know if I saw anything else that wasn't perfect.
   It should be another week as the weather has cooled and the paint takes time to dry.  I too am looking forward to the day I can start riding it.  I have already picked up some bike stands and a camera mount.  Like most people, I intend to make the bike mine with minor mods so it suits me best.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #72 on: December 01, 2023, 10:34:14 AM »

I've been notified that my bike is ready for pickup!  Yea!
I probably will fly over next Thursday, pick up the bike Friday morning, stop by the DMV, and ride home.
I will try to take some pictures and maybe a video.  I don't do many YT videos and am always in awe of how well Sam's videos come out.
I have a video camera and mount, but I'm not sure how well it will attach on the first try.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2023, 10:25:13 PM »

Does anyone know the name of the app he used to create the times and graphs at the end of the video?

I can confirm he was using a Dragy to collect the data shown in the graph at the end of the video.
https://dragymotorsports.com/

Launching a lower power EV motorcycle is easy, just twist and go. Getting the best results from a high power bike like the Ego takes a bit more skill. The bike puts down so much torque applying it all can be tricky.
Getting a good launch on a EV is easier vs a ICE bike, there are less inputs to manage. Video does not show a good short of the dash to see what TC mode the bike in the video is set at however knowing the owner I suspect he has it turned off.

I believe a properly configured EGO+ with a experienced rider should be capable of a sub 10 second 1/4 mile pass. Optimizing tire pressure, suspension setup and gearing ratios make a big difference in ET.

My best time at the drag strip in Bakersfield, CA on the Ego+ RS was 10.337 @ 132.44 mph.  That was with a 220lb rider (in gear) and an all stock bike, stock tires @ 35 PSI, no burnout and TC1 set. 

I've always said a lightweight pro with a bike properly setup and a good burnout should break into the 9s.  I'm kind of amazed honestly that no one has done it yet.  My last run at the drag strip was over a year ago...

On the Dragy.  I only use it for the pretty graph.  My time slip from the drag strip has all the data on it that I care about.  But in general, its amazing how a little device like the dragy is pretty darn close to my time skip numbers.  Usually less than .1sec difference.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2023, 11:11:24 PM »

The dragstrip is a thread hijack but...  I see on tv top fuel and stuff like that is 1000 feet now.  When you post your time and trap speed the reader may not be able to correctly assume.
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