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[MVetter]

Any guesses of when "Tesla will flip the switch"?

Sometime between now and 100 years from now is my best estimate.

[Specter]

Any guesses of when "Tesla will flip the switch"?

Sometime between now and 100 years from now is my best estimate.

Unless he has a 99 year mortgage / lease on his factory so it'll have to be in 99 years, give or take a decade or two.
What would be nice is if he just puts out the adapter thingie and just says ok, for all of you who have CCS1, buy the adapter, sign up with us, give us your vin and you have an account.  Pay as you charge, or however he plans on doing this.

I wonder if you have a Tesla vehicle already if he'd let you charge other CCS stuff there as well w/o any prior agreements between him and the manu?  I can understand early on why he'd want some sort of agreement with say Ford, to get them to pay for part of the cost of putting in the adaptations etc, but after that, the more people that can use his product the better you'd think?

He just needs to be careful so that the government in their efforts to continue hating on him, don't try to cry Monopoly and steal the network or sue him for it or some other stupid dim crap.

I know he hates motorcycles for whatever reason but man that would be sweet if he did end up doing one, just to get some support for the rest of the bikes out there.

Aaron

[DonTom]

Any guesses of when "Tesla will flip the switch"?

Sometime between now and 100 years from now is my best estimate.

Well, then it could just work by the time I test it. Which could be tomorrow.


I will let you know what happens. But I do expect the error.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[MVetter]

I would definitely be surprised if it started working before they made an announcement.

[Specter]

Unless it's a 'Tesla Fault' ie them turning on the charger for 'their' customer error, it actually might work Morgan, 43 corrected a lot of the timing issues with the CCS.

The only quirk I have seen with it is, if you Do have an error, like a timeout, because you thought you had the plug all the way down and it wasnt, even if you correct it almost immediately, that charge attempt probably will NOT initiate properly, and you are better off just cycling power on the bike and just resetting everything and going again fresh, with a GOOD seating of the plug and no errors floating around in memory of either the charger or bike.

Aaron

[MVetter]

Again, Daren in San Diego tested this. When connecting to the station it reads the VIN. Presumably there is a check run against Tesla's internal database of approved VINs/manufacturers and if that check fails the charge session fails. So when Daren started a charge session with his Tesla app and plugged in his v43 firmware Ego, the station ran the check. It rejected the bike.

[DonTom]

Again, Daren in San Diego tested this. When connecting to the station it reads the VIN. Presumably there is a check run against Tesla's internal database of approved VINs/manufacturers and if that check fails the charge session fails. So when Daren started a charge session with his Tesla app and plugged in his v43 firmware Ego, the station ran the check. It rejected the bike.

I just got back from the V4 Tesla Supercharger in Sparks, NV


It did nothing at all when I tried to charge. Same as not being connected. And the "Charge your non-Tesla" in my Tesla app said the closest Tesla Supercharger I could use was in Placerville, CA, which is 125 miles/201 KM from Reno. IOW, the one with the Magic Dock that I have used before.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[MVetter]

Exactly as I expected. Oh well, at least we know for certain.

[Specter]

There is a Tesla charging station out here by the supermarket that has like 8 or 10 charging stations at it, people pull up and charge while hanging at the coffee shop right behind it.

How do I know if it's a magic dock station or not?  I checked one or two of the chargers and they are tesla cables, but I didn't check all of them.  Is there a quick way to tell, like it has 2 cables hanging off it or something?

Aaron

[DonTom]

Exactly as I expected. Oh well, at least we know for certain.

I assume it will now work on Fords, but nothing else that is non-Tesla.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Richard230]

Exactly as I expected. Oh well, at least we know for certain.

I assume it will now work on Fords, but nothing else that is non-Tesla.


-Don-  Reno, NVF

I read an article the other day which said that the Ford/Tesla system is not quite ready to go. Ford needs to send out a Ford/Tesla adapter device to Ford EV owners before Ford EVs can work at certain (but not all) Tesla Superchargers.

[DonTom]

I read an article the other day which said that the Ford/Tesla system is not quite ready to go. Ford needs to send out a Ford/Tesla adapter device to Ford EV owners before Ford EVs can work at certain (but not all) Tesla Superchargers.

Pre 2025 models need the adapter. The same one I have, but that is NOT the issue with Ford. The Fords need an OTA update and not all of them have received the update. For now,  some Fords will work (with the adpater) and some will not.


But perhaps by now all the Fords have received the update. So perhaps they all work by now.


BTW, I changed the charging ECU in my 2018 Tesla M3 so I could also charge it with CCS--with and adapter. kinda the opposite from the Ford issue. But to make it work, I had to go into the "Service Mode" (which Tesla owners are not even supposed to know about) and force a new OTA update before it would work for CCS. Likewise, the Fords need an update to use Tesla Superchargers.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[DonTom]

before Ford EVs can work at certain (but not all) Tesla Superchargers.

They should all work on V3 and V4 Tesla Superchargers. But NOT on the countless V2s still out there, which are probably most Tesla SCs for now.


When/if we can charge our CCS motorcycles on Tesla SCs. we will also have that same issue. Must be V3 or V4 to be CCS compatible. V2s are NOT CCS compatible. Neither are V1s (but I don't think any of the V1 exist these days).


BTW, it easy to tell the V4s by looking at them. They are solid, no hole in the middle of the charger.


The V2's are 150 KW. The V3's are 250KW. That's how you tell the difference between V2 and V3, look at their max rating.


Or perhaps a better way to remember---the Tesla SCs must be 250KW or better to work for CCS-- even for a 20 KW charge.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Motoproponent]

How do I know if it's a magic dock station or not? 

Aaron

The easiest way is to go the Tesla App, and look at the map under the "Charge Your EV" find a charger button. The map will show little grey icons for destination chargers you can use (with a Tesla Tap or similar) and red lightning bolts for superchargers with magic docks. Thats how it is for me, I have no tesla so the app knows I can only use Magic Dock equipped stalls.

Alternatively you can actually see the big black plastic hump that is the magic dock where the NACS plug is held in the SC.

You can also go to Plugshare, toggle all networks off but Tesla and only select CCS as the plug.

[Specter]

I do use plugshare, and it did show the one  by me, but they did not work, they are all the tesla connectors.
I am picking up some steaks to grill out thursday night with my buddies at the power plant for our monthly get together and gossip thingie, so I'll be right by it so can take a better look at it and see if there are any that have diff plugs on them. 

Last time i really just glanced at them but not really looked hard.  Maybe one or two of them are different, I don't know yet
Aaron