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[Richard230]

BMW has advised their dealers not to sell any more new or used (?) motorcycles until further notice. Interestingly, the CE04 electric scooter is not involved, so that should tell you something:  https://www.webbikeworld.com/bmw-issues-stop-sales-notice-on-all-new-and-used-motorcycles-in-north-america/

[princec]

Emissions control related apparently.

Cas

[Richard230]

Emissions control related apparently.

Cas

The guess floating around BMW forums is that might have something to do with the charcoal canister used on NA bikes.

[Specter]

Let's  kill off all sales of ICE machines, and make them buy E bikes instead.  That's one way of going 'green'.

Will be interesting to see what the story is when it finally does break in it's true form.

Aaron

[DonTom]

BMW has advised their dealers not to sell any more new or used (?) motorcycles until further notice. Interestingly, the CE04 electric scooter is not involved, so that should tell you something:  https://www.webbikeworld.com/bmw-issues-stop-sales-notice-on-all-new-and-used-motorcycles-in-north-america/

Yeah, I just got an email from Randy at A&S cycles in Roseville (where I ordered my Experia from) explaining that. I was wondering what it was all about and why only BMW.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Stonewolf]

Let's  kill off all sales of ICE machines, and make them buy E bikes instead.  That's one way of going 'green'.

I see you're familiar with UK law. We have a deadline after which all new ICE sales are banned, the clock is ticking and the industry is desperately trying to do anything to not go electric when they know full well they have no choice and should be preparing the public for what's coming.

[Richard230]

BMW has advised their dealers not to sell any more new or used (?) motorcycles until further notice. Interestingly, the CE04 electric scooter is not involved, so that should tell you something:  https://www.webbikeworld.com/bmw-issues-stop-sales-notice-on-all-new-and-used-motorcycles-in-north-america/

Yeah, I just got an email from Randy at A&S cycles in Roseville (where I ordered my Experia from) explaining that. I was wondering what it was all about any why only BMW.


-Don-  Reno, NV

I received the same email message.

[JaimeC]

What IS it with German vehicle manufacturers and emissions controls???

[princec]

They're all bent as nine bob notes basically. Unfortunately it was this sort of thing that got us self-ejected out of Europe.

Cas  

[Specter]

So is this going to become another kerfluffle like the volkswager was it? and emissions scandal?
Stand by for some deals on BMW's soon as they try to suck up / buy their way out of the impending fines etc etc etc.

Again, I can see it already,  your ICE vehicles just can NOT comply!  just cease making them and go clean electric to fit the OWO narrative.  Never mind that there is no electric for anyone because we blew up the gas pipeline just pretend it works!!

I can see the next step, those who do have these, you can either trade them in for a 'compliant' vehicle, which will be much more expensive.  Have them repaired, which will be expensive, or get fined / jailed.... which will be expensive.

Aaron

[princec]

I think it's a bit more benign this time - it's not a defeat mechanism, but apparently just the emissions control canister thing has been found to have a manufacturing defect or somesuch that renders it sub-par. Or something. You would normally, however, expect a recall ... not a "stop selling everything" order. That's the strange part.

Cas

[TheRan]

Well they have to get the offending parts replaced on the bikes that are already at dealers, I imagine if they continued to sell them knowing that they weren't emissions compliant that's when the big fines come rolling in.

[DonTom]

I think it's a bit more benign this time - it's not a defeat mechanism, but apparently just the emissions control canister thing has been found to have a manufacturing defect or some such that renders it sub-par. Or something. You would normally, however, expect a recall ... not a "stop selling everything" order. That's the strange part.

Cas

"Recalls" are for safety related. TSB's (Technical Services Bulletins) are used to fix things that are not safety related. 


Perhaps their new vehicles are not meeting the USA standards, so perhaps it's best to stop the sales before they even get here.



-Don-  Reno, NV

[Richard230]

But privately-owned bikes too?  That could end up being a real mess if all BMW motorcycles past a certain year get recalled to have their emission equipment replaced, even if it is only a canister.

I still recall when all of the 2001 Yamaha FZ1 models were recalled by Yamaha for not meeting California emission requirements after they had been sold to their customers . I have no idea how that recall went, but my guess is that few if any bikes were actually confiscated by Yamaha to comply with CA's demands that they be snatched away from their owners.   

[Richard230]

Calmoto just sent me an email for the BMW stop sales notice with a offer that their Energicas are still available for test riding and sales.