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[DonTom]

Has anybody else here added a centerstand to a DSR/X?

I just received mine today and I have already installed it.

Some comments to make it just a little easier for others:

It came in many parts.


EDIT: (I edit out this paragraph, see messages below).


The instructions here are not all that great and are not a perfect match to what must be done.

First, tools required:

Four Torx bits:  T20, T40, T45, T50 and a rubber mallet. And perhaps a very small hydraulic jack (other ways could be possible).

First Step: Put together what you see on page 2 of the instruction in the link above.

But . . .

Put in the four 20-0246501 "Iglide Bearing GFM-1416-06" in the large holes of the centerstand. If they do not seem to fit all the way in at first, do not be concerned. They will when they are bolted into the pivot plates. This is NOT shown in the instructions.

Do not yet do anything with the 26-08366 Centerstand Bumper.  That does NOT fit on the centerstand but will be used later.

Follow the rest of the instructions. But. . .

On the left side of the bike, with the completed centerstand, the left side rear bolt will be very difficult, if not impossible to screw in, as is. The problem is the way the centerstand will not give enough room when up and will hit the swing arm. But we cannot put the centerstand down until it is completed. But what can be done is put a small hydraulic jack or whatever under the left side of the centerstand and raise the complete centerstand after both bolts on the right-side pivot plate are in. This will be the same as if putting the centerstand down a bit, it will put enough pressure on the centerstand spring to align the centerstand with the two small holes for the "26-08420 Centerstand Pivot Plate Left" two screws. If this step makes no sense, don't worry, it will make perfect sense when you're doing the job and can see what happens when you try to install the two left side bolts.

The last step:

The purpose of the bumper (26-08366)  is so the centerstand will not hit the swing arm when up. It is installed on the fins of the motor, so align it up with the centerstand, so the centerstand will rest on it perfectly when up. After it is aligned and held in place, take a rubber mallet and hammer it in as far as it will go.

Anyway, this is the way I did the job today.

Job takes about an hour, perhaps less if my instructions here are followed.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[TheRan]

That link to the installation instructions isn't working. I'm assuming you installed it with the bike on the side stand, and that using a rear paddock stand is the intended method.

Are the brake pedal space and kickstand spring identical to parts already installed on the bike? At first I was thinking the spacer was to move the pedal out of the way of some part of the centre stand and it would be strange that they would include it if not actually required, but perhaps it's a component that they expect may be damaged during removal and so they include a spare. Not sure on the spring though. Maybe it's a stronger one for some reason.

[DonTom]

That link to the installation instructions isn't working. I'm assuming you installed it with the bike on the side stand, and that using a rear paddock stand is the intended method.

Are the brake pedal space and kickstand spring identical to parts already installed on the bike? At first I was thinking the spacer was to move the pedal out of the way of some part of the centre stand and it would be strange that they would include it if not actually required, but perhaps it's a component that they expect may be damaged during removal and so they include a spare. Not sure on the spring though. Maybe it's a stronger one for some reason.

The above link works for me. I just now tried it, so try it again and see what happens. Perhaps the Zero site was down when you tried.


Yeah, the extra parts match what is already on the bike. I see no reason for them to be in the box.   Perhaps they were in there by a mistake. I have no idea., The brake pedal works normally and so does the sidestand. And there is no way to break them during the installation.


Yes, I used the sidestand. Using a paddock stand will not help with the installation of the centerstand other than putting the bike up a little higher.


It would have been nice if the instructions had a complete parts list to show what should be included in the box.  They could have been better.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[DonTom]

If the link for the instructions still do not work for you, go to the Zero website and select "DSR/X" and then select " Accessories" and then "design" and go to the centerstand and from their see the instalation instructions.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[TheRan]

Yeah doing it that way works, the address is similar to the one you originally linked to but the signature number at the end is different.

My thinking was if the rear end was raised up you could lower the center stand. It would be difficult to get leverage on the mount though. First thing I would try is mounting the left side first, then once that's bolted to the frame it'd be easy to lower the stand and get the right side in position without the stand hitting the motor. If that wasn't possible then just remove the spring.

The instructions do have a parts list and those spare parts aren't on there so probably did just get thrown in the box accidentally.

[DonTom]

Yeah doing it that way works, the address is similar to the one you originally linked to but the signature number at the end is different.

My thinking was if the rear end was raised up you could lower the center stand. It would be difficult to get leverage on the mount though. First thing I would try is mounting the left side first, then once that's bolted to the frame it'd be easy to lower the stand and get the right side in position without the stand hitting the motor. If that wasn't possible then just remove the spring.

The instructions do have a parts list and those spare parts aren't on there so probably did just get thrown in the box accidentally.

No, that will not stop the centerstand from hitting the swingarm making it not possible to get the bracket bolts in on the left side. But other methods could work such as not installing the centerstand spring until last. But that would require a special spring tool to put on the spring, as it will have to be stretched out a bit to be put on the centerstand. It's a very strong spring.


When the centerstand is stopped by the swingarm, only the centerstand spring needs to be stretched out to get the bracket bolt in. That is what the jack on the bottom of centerstand will do, it will  cause the centerstand spring to strech out enough to get the left bracket bolts in.


It is difficult to explain until the job is attempted and then the issue can be clearly seen.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[DonTom]

The centerstand installation instructions are very piss poor!

I just took a better look at my work and discovered there should be NO extra parts at all.


I looked closely at the sidestand spring and see it's a small spring inside of a larger spring. The Centerstand uses the same idea. That is where the "20-00709XX S KS Spring In" goes. Inside the much larger centerstand spring.


I removed the two large centerstand bolts (one on each side, Torx 50). I discovered this is where the two  "20-0245503 X Brake Pedal Spacer<s>" go. They didn't seem to fit at first, same issue as the "four  20-0246501 "Iglide Bearing GFM-1416-06" had.  They do fit, but are pressed in by the bolt.


IOW, the four 20-0246501 are the inserts for the "20-0245503"


Fortunately, I was able to take care of both of these issues even after I "completed" (so I thought) the job yesterday.


I put a little general-purpose grease on the outer bushing (20-0245503). This bushing stops the centerstand bolt from turning when the centerstand is used. I was somewhat concerned about this yesterday.


Obviously, Zero is using some stock parts from other bikes or whatever to get some of the parts for the centerastand. The "Brake Pedal Spacer" becomes a centerstand bushing, etc.


I now feel I have the job done correctly. But they really need to improve their installation instructions.


I just edited my first post in this thread as there are NO extra parts. Just these parts are not mentioned in the instructions.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[TheRan]

That's not really a fault of the instructions, rather the stand wasn't fully assembled when it was sent out to you. Someone shouldn't be expected to disassemble a part and install additional components to it. It would be like if they sold you a new brake caliper but sent you the pistons to install yourself.

[DonTom]

That's not really a fault of the instructions, rather the stand wasn't fully assembled when it was sent out to you. Someone shouldn't be expected to disassemble a part and install additional components to it. It would be like if they sold you a new brake caliper but sent you the pistons to install yourself.

I wondered the same. Since the instructions show a completed centerstand to install, it makes me wonder if Zero's original idea was to ship the centerstand completed to be installed. Then the instructions would be fairly clear.


But I wouldn't think anything of it if the instructions would match what I needed to do.


I guess I was the first here to install the centerstand. At least now others have the instructions here in this thread to be used with Zero's installation instructions which leave out how to put the centerstand together.


There was a lot more parts in the box than I expected and every one of them is used.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[TheRan]

I decided to take a look at the install guide for the SR/F center stand and it's much more in depth, says about lifting the rear of the bike, lists a lot more parts, and the stand arrives pretty much disassembled and is put together as it's being attached to the bike. It seems like they've just rushed getting the DSR/X guide out, possibly put together by someone who hasn't fitted a stand to one of the previous bikes.

https://learnerresources.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/113502/learner_resource_uploads/d93c0fa7e31710c7a806f893fb/10-08217%20-%20SRFS%20Center%20Stand%20iSheet%20Rev.3%20-%20EN.pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAQZVLRHER6MLZQEAI%2F20230827%2Feu-west-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20230827T144032Z&X-Amz-Expires=5400&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=730922dbdb0cadcb90b0525e68c56f97494c2aaee2fe1c78c3c0d9901f283210

[DonTom]

I decided to take a look at the install guide for the SR/F center stand and it's much more in depth, says about lifting the rear of the bike, lists a lot more parts, and the stand arrives pretty much disassembled and is put together as it's being attached to the bike. It seems like they've just rushed getting the DSR/X guide out, possibly put together by someone who hasn't fitted a stand to one of the previous bikes.

Yeah, perhaps so. Something is wrong somewhere.  But at least now here in this thread we have the correct instructions for the many parts not mentioned.


I would like to see the link for the SR/F for the centerstand.   I will check that out on the Zero website, since you link is not taking me anywhere.  I assume that is what the link was supposed to be, but I cannot tell on this end.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[DonTom]

Here is a working link to the Zero SR/F centerstand installation.  At least it works here, I tested it after posting with this edit. It explains some of the stuff for the DSR/X centerstand, but the instructions are quite a bit different in most areas. Anyway, my previous messages here explain the DSR/X procedure, but looking at the DSR/X instructions can still be a little helpful.


There is absolutely no reason to lift up the rear of the bike with the DSR/X to install the centerstand. It can all be done on the sidestand. But a way to lift up on the centerstand will be necessary on the DSR/X if done the way I did mine.


If one has a spring puller that works with the DSR/X large centerstand spring, then the springs can be put on last without the use of the lift. There are other ways to get the job done than the way I did mine. But my way worked perfectly, and I am sure it was done correctly after I had no leftover parts.


I see that the SR/F instructions have a complete parts list, unlike the DSR/X.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[DonTom]

My garage floor is way too slippery for the use of the centerstand, so I purchased this motorcycle matt that works perfectly in my garage. So I now have my DSRX on the centerstand in my garage.


It would be easy to remove the rear wheel or whatever with this centerstand. No extra support will be necessary.


Can also charge the front wheel with it, but a couple of pounds of upward pressure near the front of the bike will be necessary to bring the rear wheel down and the front up.


I put my Experia key fob under the rear wheel in the photo below. It is about two of them off the ground. Make that around 1.5" or 38 mm off the ground (above my motorcycle matt). I just now measured it.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Oilcan]

Looks good. How about a picture of the top of the stand where it bolts to the bike.

[DonTom]

Looks good. How about a picture of the top of the stand where it bolts to the bike.

The right side is somewhat hidden by the round Zero plate, which hides the bolts inside to remove the other section, which must be removed to install the centerstand on the right side ONLY. The left side is in the clear.


-Don-  Reno, NV