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[DonTom]

I would say the first line from Stefano is confusing as 110VAC at 20 amps will be 2,200  watts (volts times amps= watts). Also, 20 amps is above the norm as most AC plugs are rated at 15 amps. Also, the voltage is usually 120 VAC, not 110. It is often called "110" because it started with that a very long time ago. More than 75 years ago!  Just like a 2 by 4 piece of wood no longer measures 2" by 4".


Typical level one charging is 120 VAC @ 13 amps which is 1,560 watts ac input.  Often a little less.


10% less in DC watts (power) to the battery (about 10% in heat losses from the conversion to DC) so that is a charge to the battery of 1,404 watts. You won't see more than that, but often a little less. Such as Zero's OBC of 1,300 watts DC to the battery. I would NOT expect Level one to be any higher on an Energica than a Zero or even on a Tesla or other EV.


-Don-  Wasco, CA

[Pard]

Received this email from Energica:

Energica has now chosen to move to a single charger option, which includes both a combination Level-1 / Level-2 capability. ...

 This means, it will work with both a standard 120V NEMA 5-15 home outlet, as well as a 240v NEMA 6-20 outlet.

When charging via your standard household outlet commonly referred to as a 110 outlet, your bike will charge at a rate of 1-kWh.

However, if you have a 240v outlet in your home, commonly referred to as a 220, your bike can charge from the same charger at up to 3-kWh.

[DonTom]

Received this email from Energica:

Energica has now chosen to move to a single charger option, which includes both a combination Level-1 / Level-2 capability. ...

 This means, it will work with both a standard 120V NEMA 5-15 home outlet, as well as a 240v NEMA 6-20 outlet.

When charging via your standard household outlet commonly referred to as a 110 outlet, your bike will charge at a rate of 1-kWh.

However, if you have a 240v outlet in your home, commonly referred to as a 220, your bike can charge from the same charger at up to 3-kWh.

What has changed?


-Don-  Wasco, CA

[wadejesu]

The one I got from Energica earlier this month came with a NEMA 14-50

[Commodore]

Please excuse the new-to EV's question here:  In preparation for my Experia (my first EV), I had a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed in my garage (200A service to the house, 100A to garage).  Do I still need to purchase an EVSE?

[Pard]

Please excuse the new-to EV's question here:  In preparation for my Experia (my first EV), I had a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed in my garage (200A service to the house, 100A to garage).  Do I still need to purchase an EVSE?

EVSE means Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment.

Your Experia (Congratulation BTW! ) should come with an EVSE that you will plug into your available power and it will supply the bike.

Reach out to Energica or your dealer to find out exactly which one they are sending.

Something like this:

[Commodore]

Thanks much!  That explains the situation.  The outlet I installed was based on a selection that Tom Huff sent me when I ordered it.
Have a great day.

[DonTom]

Please excuse the new-to EV's question here:  In preparation for my Experia (my first EV), I had a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed in my garage (200A service to the house, 100A to garage).  Do I still need to purchase an EVSE?

Just be sure the "granny cable" you get is 240 VAC with a 14-50P.


-Don-  Salton Sea SRA, CA

[Pard]

This is the one that came with my Rebelle:

https://www.amazon.com/BougeRV-Portable-Electric-Charging-Compatible/dp/B08KNWPRWJ

[DonTom]

This is the one that came with my Rebelle:

https://www.amazon.com/BougeRV-Portable-Electric-Charging-Compatible/dp/B08KNWPRWJ

To plug into a 14-50R, you will need something like this.


-Don-  Salton Sea SRA, CA

[Specter]

You all completely just grabbed like one tidbit of what I said and ran off on a tangent with it.
WE KNOW what the rating of a 115 volt plug is amp wise.

Lets pretend I had some magic wire that could handle as many amps as I could put thru it.
Once I got the 120 volts to the bike...

If I was able to supply 120 volts at 25 amps to the bike, can it's internal AC charger handle 25 amps of input current?
Can it take 25 amps in or is 13 amps the max it will let you put into it. 

Aaron

[Specter]

Also let me answer the what changed question.

They have combo plugs out now that have an adapter on it.   It has the male end you specify when you order for the 220 volt, but it also comes with a pigtail that has a female of that end and a male 115 volt plug on it.  if you got 220 volt you plug it in directly,  if you only have a 115 available then you put the pigtail on and plug it into the 115 outlet.  Makes it nice for those who may carry a cord with them on rides, if you can't find a 220 at the bar to plug into, you can still grab a little juice off a 115 outlet.

Aaron

[DonTom]

If I was able to supply 120 volts at 25 amps to the bike, can it's internal AC charger handle 25 amps of input current?
Can it take 25 amps in or is 13 amps the max it will let you put into it. 

Aaron

25 amps at 240 VAC is 6,000 watts. The 3KW charger will not draw more than 13 amps on either 240 VAC or with 120 VAC.


-Don-  Salton Sea SRA, CA