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Voting closed: December 31, 2022, 02:24:28 PM

[wadejesu]

Bike left San Fran

[DonTom]

Bike left San Fran

Oh, that's more like it!  Where are you located?


I take it they didn't get any Experias in yet in SF.


Someday, my Experia will be picked up in the shop in Roseville. Or should I say someyear?


-Don-  Reno, NV

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Also no updates on Experia deliveries from my dealer in Germany.
According to him, a “surprisingly high” amount of customers cancelled their Ribelle/SS9/Ego orders and switched to Experia, so in October he coud get any of the older models in only 3 weeks from order (well, not BTO but pre-config’s).
Another differentiator is that there are more different parts used on the Experia than on the other three, until all are qualified and delivered in right quantities is a challenge. Pure production capacity seems sufficient as there are two lines for Experia in a new building part and two existing lines shared between Ribelle/SS9/Ego in an old building part. Setting up a production line is also not done over night and might also contribute to delays. Plus, such a new line ramp-up is slow and might take months to run at designed cycle times. But at least in this report it sounds like they are back on track with “most current orders looking to be fulfilled by the end of 2022”. I guess you need to add specific durations for shipping/customs/intercontinental transport etc...

Assuming the linked report is accurate and there’s no other delays popping up, I’d expect the bikes at dealers within EC in Feb and in US like April (glassball accuracy applied ). 2023, Don, not 2024 .

[DonTom]

Also no updates on Experia deliveries from my dealer in Germany.
According to him, a “surprisingly high” amount of customers cancelled their Ribelle/SS9/Ego orders and switched to Experia, so in October he coud get any of the older models in only 3 weeks from order (well, not BTO but pre-config’s).
Another differentiator is that there are more different parts used on the Experia than on the other three, until all are qualified and delivered in right quantities is a challenge. Pure production capacity seems sufficient as there are two lines for Experia in a new building part and two existing lines shared between Ribelle/SS9/Ego in an old building part. Setting up a production line is also not done over night and might also contribute to delays. Plus, such a new line ramp-up is slow and might take months to run at designed cycle times. But at least in this report it sounds like they are back on track with “most current orders looking to be fulfilled by the end of 2022”. I guess you need to add specific durations for shipping/customs/intercontinental transport etc...

Assuming the linked report is accurate and there’s no other delays popping up, I’d expect the bikes at dealers within EC in Feb and in US like April (glassball accuracy applied ). 2023, Don, not 2024 .

So much for having it in September of 2022.  Or even the "fall of 2022". So what will go wrong in 2023?

It's not too surprising that many canceled their Ribelle/SS9/ but I would think the Ego is a MUCH different type of bike and few Ego people would have interest in a touring bike. From sport to a touring bike?

I wonder how many Experias they already built and where those are. Spread around Europe?

-Don-  Reno, NV

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Spread around Europe?

-Don-  Reno, NV

I don’t think so. I guess there are a few dozens if not +/-100 bikes standing in Modena, pre-assembled to a certain %-age while either the operators are waiting on production line refinements or missing parts. My guess is not a single end-customer bike has left Modena yet. But the “first wave” seems immanent…

[DonTom]

I don’t think so. I guess there are a few dozens if not +/-100 bikes standing in Modena, pre-assembled to a certain %-age while either the operators are waiting on production line refinements or missing parts. My guess is not a single end-customer bike has left Modena yet. But the “first wave” seems immanent…

This photo was taken in Pacifica, CA USA  about three weeks ago according to here.


-Don-  Reno, NV

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What makes you think this is an end-customers bike and not one of the press event bikes?

[Richard230]

I don’t think so. I guess there are a few dozens if not +/-100 bikes standing in Modena, pre-assembled to a certain %-age while either the operators are waiting on production line refinements or missing parts. My guess is not a single end-customer bike has left Modena yet. But the “first wave” seems immanent…

This photo was taken in Pacifica, CA USA  about three weeks ago according to here.


-Don-  Reno, NV

I ride that street all the time. The Post Office is to the left, the bowling alley to the right and I live 2 miles east as the crow flies. That is an odd photo. I am really surprised to see the beach so empty and Highway 1 with so little traffic on it. Nice weather like that usually brings out the traffic on the highway and the crowds on the beach.  That has got to be a press bike, perhaps staged for a photo shoot. After all the Energica distributor is located only about 10 miles to the east.

[DonTom]

I ride that street all the time. The Post Office is to the left, the bowling alley to the right and I live 2 miles east as the crow flies. That is an odd photo. I am really surprised to see the beach so empty and Highway 1 with so little traffic on it. Nice weather like that usually brings out the traffic on the highway and the crowds on the beach.  That has got to be a press bike, perhaps staged for a photo shoot. After all the Energica distributor is located only about 10 miles to the east.

I am glad that you can verify that was Pacifica and not someplace that looks the same in Europe!


Since the Energica Service Manager lives in Pacifica, I wonder if he rode the bike there and took the picture.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Richard230]

I ride that street all the time. The Post Office is to the left, the bowling alley to the right and I live 2 miles east as the crow flies. That is an odd photo. I am really surprised to see the beach so empty and Highway 1 with so little traffic on it. Nice weather like that usually brings out the traffic on the highway and the crowds on the beach.  That has got to be a press bike, perhaps staged for a photo shoot. After all the Energica distributor is located only about 10 miles to the east.

I am glad that you can verify that was Pacifica and not someplace that looks the same in Europe!


Since the Energica Service Manager lives in Pacifica, I wonder if he rode the bike there and took the picture.


-Don-  Reno, NV

That makes sense. I bet their shop is becoming familiar with the new bike before they start hitting the U.S. showrooms.

[ddennis669]

It's possible that the same Experia showed up along with some other Energicas at Buttonwillow Raceway in Central California at the end of November.

More details on Facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/energicaownersgroup/permalink/1311555956308506/

[Richard230]

I don’t think so. I guess there are a few dozens if not +/-100 bikes standing in Modena, pre-assembled to a certain %-age while either the operators are waiting on production line refinements or missing parts. My guess is not a single end-customer bike has left Modena yet. But the “first wave” seems immanent…

This photo was taken in Pacifica, CA USA  about three weeks ago according to here.


-Don-  Reno, NV

That photo of the Experia inspired me to ride my Zero to the same location this 42 degree F. morning and take the attached photo a couple of hours before the clouds rolled in, getting ready for tomorrow's forecast storm. Expect a nasty snowstorm tomorrow where you live, Don.

[DonTom]

That photo of the Experia inspired me to ride my Zero to the same location this 42 degree F. morning and take the attached photo a couple of hours before the clouds rolled in, getting ready for tomorrow's forecast storm. Expect a nasty snowstorm tomorrow where you live, Don.

That's neat how you were able to take your Zero to the exact same place.


We expect a little snow over the next couple of days here. I am at 5K elevation right here on the top of a hill, so I will get hit a little harder than most of Reno. But where it will really be heavy snow will be at Donner Summit. They can get close to a foot of snow there over the next couple of days and a total os above 3 feet of snow in a few days.


Is the CA drought over with?


BTW, I would be in southern AZ right now, but I caught COVID just before leaving. I am all over it now. I have had much worse colds and flu than this COVID bug.


-Don-  Reno, NV

[Richard230]

I am not sure if California's drought will ever be over.   

[DonTom]

I am not sure if California's drought will ever be over.   

I just looked it up here.   CA drought is over!  Until the next one!


-Don-  Reno, NV