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MikeL

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Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« on: October 11, 2022, 08:17:22 PM »

Now I know this feature is not possible at the moment, but some EV car makers are working with charging companies to make Plug and Charge capabilities a thing. A few have it enabled and I'm sure it will continue to roll out as it makes life easier when charging.

Do you think this feature will come to Energica in the near future? Could this be done with current hardware and a firmware/software update?
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Re: Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2022, 01:35:22 AM »

Now I know this feature is not possible at the moment, but some EV car makers are working with charging companies to make Plug and Charge capabilities a thing. A few have it enabled and I'm sure it will continue to roll out as it makes life easier when charging.

Do you think this feature will come to Energica in the near future? Could this be done with current hardware and a firmware/software update?

Great question....of course I don't know the answer but it would be nice if it did happen.

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Re: Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2022, 01:42:55 AM »

Now I know this feature is not possible at the moment, but some EV car makers are working with charging companies to make Plug and Charge capabilities a thing. A few have it enabled and I'm sure it will continue to roll out as it makes life easier when charging.

Do you think this feature will come to Energica in the near future? Could this be done with current hardware and a firmware/software update?
I don't even know what "plug and charge capabilities" means.  Don't we all "plug and charge" ?


Or does it mean something like the way Tesla does it with their Superchargers?   IOW, no card, no app, no buttons, just plug in and walk away.



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Re: Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2022, 01:50:40 AM »

I don't even know what "plug and charge capabilities" means.  Don't we all "plug and charge" ?

Or does it mean something like the way Tesla does it with their Superchargers?   IOW, no card, no app, no buttons, just plug in and walk away.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

Yup, like Tesla. Just plug in and walk away.

Supposedly it's already built into the protocol, but it hasn't really been rolled out in too many vehicles or implemented by many charging companies.
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Re: Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2022, 01:59:36 AM »

Yup, like Tesla. Just plug in and walk away.

Supposedly it's already built into the protocol, but it hasn't really been rolled out in too many vehicles or implemented by many charging companies.
That will be nice if we don't need a different card for every machine. I don't like using the apps, I only do that at Electrify America because they have no card. I hate using their machines.


Tesla's way is the best. But my biggest complaint there is they can only charge Teslas. And they have a lot of their Superchargers where there is nothing else available. Such as at Lake Topaz, NV. A perfect spot for CCS but there is no CCS all the way down to BridgePort, CA.




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Re: Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2022, 02:39:55 AM »

I'm gonna be contrary and say I hate it because it would mean creating an account and agreeing to data sharing.

I'm honestly really sick of the whole charge authorisation conversation, just put a contactless reader on.
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Re: Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2022, 07:21:36 AM »

I'm gonna be contrary and say I hate it because it would mean creating an account and agreeing to data sharing.
What is the big deal with that?


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Re: Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2022, 01:04:00 PM »

It's there and it should work, several providers in EU are supporting it. Never tested it though.
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Re: Plug and Charge Capabilities?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2022, 05:36:02 PM »

Plug and walk would be nice in principle. But from my experience here in Germany I don't see this happening glitch-free every time. So you need to stay to see if charging really starts etc. So, in reality no time-saving.

I am using a single app (elvah) which needs three or four fingertaps. Removing my helmet and gloves  takes me longer than start charging  ;D
 


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