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Author Topic: Range => RS vs. non RS  (Read 1589 times)

MrMogensen

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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2022, 02:03:45 PM »
Quote from: MVetter on April 28, 2022, 08:46:03 PM
Same chain. There's a 1-tooth difference in the front sprocket between the RS and non-RS models.

From Energica site - about difference between Ribelle RS and non-RS

"To handle this additional power the existing final drive chain has been changed to a Regina 15/44 525 O-Ring Chain...."
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2022, 08:46:44 PM »
Quote from: MrMogensen on May 01, 2022, 02:03:45 PM

"To handle this additional power the existing final drive chain has been changed to a Regina 15/44 525 O-Ring Chain...."

And what do you think that means?
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2022, 12:08:37 AM »
Silly and effective marketing bling.
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2022, 12:24:19 AM »
What it actually translates to is a very goofy way of saying "same chain 1 tooth difference on the front sprocket"

15/44 means 15 tooth front sprocket 44 tooth rear sprocket on the RS models using a 525 chain

versus

16 tooth front sprocket 44 tooth rear sprocket on the standard models using a 525 chain
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2022, 01:06:20 AM »
... Those bastards  ;D
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2022, 12:03:23 PM »
So that's where they get the 0.2 sec difference in 0-100 times from: Different gearing. And you pay the premium for the software that has to take in account the different gearing for the speedo...

Nice.
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2022, 03:01:09 PM »
So, one 32 bit float changed in the EEPROM...

Cas :)
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2022, 08:37:37 PM »
Don't forget the sticker :)
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2022, 12:29:54 PM »
I don't know if you asked but he did it anyway  8)



I personally suspect that it's mostly the difference in riders that made the difference in consumption here. Can be tested by swapping riders (and riding that route again). If not just the difference in wieght and height of riders it can also be in riding style. Even when they ride together maybe one is not as steady with the throttle or has regen set differently requiring more input.

The different gearing will result in different RPM for same speeds. I wouldn't expect that to result in a 10% difference though. If it is noticeable it'll likely be a lot less. 
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2022, 01:28:36 PM »
Quote from: Hans2183 on May 05, 2022, 12:29:54 PM
I don't know if you asked but he did it anyway  8)

I personally suspect that it's mostly the difference in riders that made the difference in consumption here. Can be tested by swapping riders (and riding that route again). If not just the difference in wieght and height of riders it can also be in riding style. Even when they ride together maybe one is not as steady with the throttle or has regen set differently requiring more input.

The different gearing will result in different RPM for same speeds. I wouldn't expect that to result in a 10% difference though. If it is noticeable it'll likely be a lot less.

At the end of the video where he concludes the 10% difference he mentions the windscreen to be the biggest difference. The non-RS has a the windscreen and that had the 10%+ on the RS.
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2022, 08:58:54 PM »
He's wrong. That's not how windscreens work.
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2022, 02:59:27 AM »
Zero claim the SR/S has higher range than SR/F due to the fairing?
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2022, 03:45:50 AM »
where?
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2022, 06:05:23 AM »
Someone did, I recall, claim a 15% increase at one point, but I think it was swiftly debunked as you have to lie completely prone behind the fairing.

Cas :)
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Re: Range => RS vs. non RS
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2022, 06:51:35 AM »
Oh, the SR/S will definitely get more range than the SR/F. Two things:

1.) Zero doesn't officially claim it anywhere

2.) That is significantly more than a windscreen
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