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[NEW2elec]

Limited to 100 bikes this is a peek at the new Hyperfighter Colossus which will be shown at the 2022 CES show in Las Vegas in January.

[Demoni]

HAHAHAHA

So the new Damon is actually a Ducati? Alternatively Damon is infringing on the intellectual property of  another motorcycle manufacture...

Ducati | Octane Symphony
https://youtu.be/GqonaUTpDm4?t=28

[Electric_Adventures]

You know, it’s kind of sad that they didn’t take the time to even make their own video.   There better be a real one at CES next month. 

[HoodRichOG]

A company that hasn't delivered anything but hype is already releasing a second model.

At least Lightning delivered a couple of bikes.

I would much prefer to see a production update than a video that has been blatantly ripped off.

[Shadow]

Renaming topic as such.

[NEW2elec]

I completely reject Shadow renaming this thread.
What the hell "scam" do think there is?

There is footage from a Ducati video on this clip, yes.

And?

Has it crossed anyone's mind that Ducati and Damon may be working together?
Has anyone seen an electric Ducati ready to race MotoE?

If someone at Damon got caught taking an easy path for video content that's between those two companies.

This new Damon bike will be a CES in Vegas.  Most of you are a few hours away feel free to go ask all the questions you'd like.

I've never posted that everybody should put down deposits or that they should put of buying anything else to wait on Damon.

I've only put out info to help people see what else is out there.
There isn't a single EV company that has put a damn thing out on time, much less with a pandemic going on.
I know this forum is littered with dead companies, but I've never seen this kind of obsessed hatred toward a new company that is trying to make some awesome bikes. 

[Shadow]

I completely reject Shadow renaming this thread.
What the hell "scam" do think there is?

...

I know this forum is littered with dead companies, but I've never seen this kind of obsessed hatred toward a new company that is trying to make some awesome bikes.

Emphasis in bold is my own.

Pretty much this. I don't have an opinion for or against companies with no products on the market. However...

At some point though allowing an entire section of EMF to be cheap SEO for a possible scam is irresponsible to not label it as such. There's as you say some enthusiasm for it but the view from here is it's one user making regular posts about a company that doesn't have any products. There's nothing tangible here to discuss? The linked video is misleading. I'm following what is plain to see here, misleading users of the forum in that manner is not going unnoticed.

[Richard230]

The Damon and "Colossus" story has hit this on-line publication. However, it does appear to me as if the article is more of a press release prepared by Damon than an independently written and researched evaluation:  https://thepack.news/damon-motors-full-speed-ahead-with-expansion-to-europe-and-new-hyperfighter-model/

The article mentions lots of big plans and claims of tens of millions of dollars invested in Damon, so we will have to wait to see what their production numbers, distribution and dealer signups will be like in the future. Hopefully, a lot better than Lightning's.  But I will admit that the Colossus claimed specifications seem a bit over the top to me, although you could argue that the specs and price are close to that of what Lightning was claiming for their racing model back in 2014.

[Fran K]

Hey KTM had their electric bike out in Europe for a few years before it was imported in 2017.  It was road legal there they chose not to do so here.  $500 uncrating fee and balance due at pick up.

I would think after the initial deposit they really need some escrow mechanism.  The current deal is paid in full before it gets shipped.  Or does anyone dispute this?  Picked up at the authorized service place maybe?   I doubt I am the only one watching the Sondros folks try and convert deposits into pay another $1000 now and in full before shipping, no shipping quote.

Last I recall their lease is really a balloon loan with a buy out clause.  Isn't the buy out entity different than the loan origionator?   We have had this discussion here prior.
Triumph and Ducati will likely have bikes before Damon has beyond what they have pre ordered at this point.  Maybe Kymco, maybe others?

[NEW2elec]

I completely reject Shadow renaming this thread.
What the hell "scam" do think there is?

...

I know this forum is littered with dead companies, but I've never seen this kind of obsessed hatred toward a new company that is trying to make some awesome bikes.

Emphasis in bold is my own.

Pretty much this. I don't have an opinion for or against companies with no products on the market. However...

At some point though allowing an entire section of EMF to be cheap SEO for a possible scam is irresponsible to not label it as such. There's as you say some enthusiasm for it but the view from here is it's one user making regular posts about a company that doesn't have any products. There's nothing tangible here to discuss? The linked video is misleading. I'm following what is plain to see here, misleading users of the forum in that manner is not going unnoticed.

Shadow there isn't much I can't stand more than when people try to cherry pick parts of a post to save themselves from looking bad.
Please explain how you know so much about what businesses will or won't succeed.

The only issue with this thread is the Ducati footage.  Which frankly I don't give a damn about.  Like I said that's between Ducati and Damon.
 
They don't claim this naked version of the Hypersport which, if people have read and watched all I've posted would understand the drive unit allows many different platforms from the same core, is ready to be ridden home from CES.

 This continued childish mind set from some on here of, if you can't buy it right now then it doesn't exist and never will.   WAHHHHH
Grow up people!
This is the social media era we live in now.  You get 3 or 4 movie trailers before the thing hits theaters. 
Elon said they were building the Roadster II "NOW" back in 2018.  How's that coming?
Teaser teaser teaser hype hype hype is just the way things are done now.  Live with it.

At the bottom center is the HQ.  Right above it is a huge cargo shipping yard for trains and ships.  Like where you would want to be to ship bikes all over, huh? 

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2854775,-123.088408,505m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en


They list their investors on their webpage.  They list their executives.  They show their team.  They show their R&D shop.  They have shown the bike on the road in the real world.  They showed the happy city councilmen at the planned factory spot and the jobs it will bring. 

This is the most elaborate "scam" of all time huh?

And as for cheap SEO or whatever reason you have for being against this, I post this information on here to have it out there to show all the steps that are being made to make a great bike.  The kind of bike people have been wishing for for years from Zero.
I'm not paid or encouraged to do it.  I watch the company and post what I think is helpful or encouraging.  It's the point of a forum. 
 
Your little "warning" is based on nothing but your opinion which is fine for your own post but don't put it on mine.  It looks like I'm questioning the company and I'm not.

Please remove your opinion.

Thank you

[HoodRichOG]

The Damon and "Colossus" story has hit this on-line publication. However, it does appear to me as if the article is more of a press release prepared by Damon than an independently written and researched evaluation:  https://thepack.news/damon-motors-full-speed-ahead-with-expansion-to-europe-and-new-hyperfighter-model/

The article mentions lots of big plans and claims of tens of millions of dollars invested in Damon, so we will have to wait to see what their production numbers, distribution and dealer signups will be like in the future. Hopefully, a lot better than Lightning's.  But I will admit that the Colossus claimed specifications seem a bit over the top to me, although you could argue that the specs and price are close to that of what Lightning was claiming for their racing model back in 2014.

Oh nice, they're already expanding into Europe. This makes total sense after their tremendous sales successes in North America.

The article mentions they have $45M in orders. Would be interesting to see who these "orders" are from.

[NEW2elec]

At least two of us on EMF have orders there, OG.   
There are about 1000 people on the Damon Lab. Some have orders some don't.

If it doesn't appeal to you get something else, or nothing else it doesn't matter, but this does not add anything to the discussion.

[Shadow]

"Elon said they were building the Roadster II "NOW" back in 2018.  How's that coming?"

Not sure of this comparison? Is there Ducati footage that Elon (Musk? assumed) claims to be the new Roadster II as well? That would also be misleading.

I don't like the word "scam". What is a better way to express that this is not a real product and the marketing is whack?

[NEW2elec]

Cherry picking again?  After I pointed out how pathetically weak I find people's arguments who do it are?  Interesting choice.

Don't want to address all of the proof that it's a company building the bike that the others wish they could?

I understand. 

Again please remove your opinion from my post, it has no value and is based in no fact and is backed by no knowledge of the company .

Thank you.

[HoodRichOG]

Weren't they supposed to have done test rides this summer? What happened to that?

I understand delays due to Covid but it seems these guys are all about marketing and not about the actual riding experience.

I really hope they come through but the electric moto space has so much vaporware which is where my scepticism comes from. Lightning has 2 factories but that did not seem to help them build bikes for some reason.