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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2021, 12:16:45 PM »

Before the upgrade it would charge to about 63%, now it takes forever to reach the target because it unnecessarily reduces the charging power? Great job, Zero...
It's too cold for me to further test the new firmware, but so far I'm not impressed.

Probably not unnecessary but i think the point where it starts to taper off is when it starts to balance the cells. Same thing happens at 95% (when charge target disabled) or so. Going from 95% -> 100% before the bike fully shuts off, generally takes about 15-20 mins. Hence there are 2 published charging numbers from Zero.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2021, 10:49:08 PM »

I updated my bike on saturday. Only worked after using the App, trying from the prompt at startup failed.

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* Fix for Remote Data Connectivity when bike is not riding or charging
Since then the SoC was reported correctly from the online API.

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* Improve self cancelling turn signals to cancel based on bike angle and reduced total distance
They cancel now within ~100 meters. Although a bit hit or miss if they detect the turn.

On a ride today(overcast clouds) I also noticed the display constantly switching between light and darkmode.  Up to only ~2 Seconds between switching. Looked like the hysteresis wasn't working properly.
And a small thing: You can now choose to display RPM in one of the 4 dashboards.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2021, 11:23:35 PM »

Uram,

Interesting.  I contacted Zero Customer Service/Tech Support today and was told the turn signals now cancel after 30 seconds of forward motion.  No mention was made of lean angle.  I've upgraded to V20 but cannot check it out yet due to weather here in the Northeast.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2021, 11:32:47 PM »

On a ride today(overcast clouds) I also noticed the display constantly switching between light and darkmode.  Up to only ~2 Seconds between switching. Looked like the hysteresis wasn't working properly.
And a small thing: You can now choose to display RPM in one of the 4 dashboards.

Displaying the motor RPM was already possible with V19.

I originally had the same problem with light and dark mode switching back and forth before I permanently set it to light mode. This is a customizable option.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2021, 11:56:22 PM »

Just so you know, I upgraded FW to v20 yesterday and now my Android app is working again, the remote connection has been restored and I can see my SOC on the app again - plus ride capture etc is working. Thanks Zero  :)
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2021, 12:53:36 AM »

On a ride today(overcast clouds) I also noticed the display constantly switching between light and darkmode.  Up to only ~2 Seconds between switching. Looked like the hysteresis wasn't working properly.
And a small thing: You can now choose to display RPM in one of the 4 dashboards.

Displaying the motor RPM was already possible with V19.

I originally had the same problem with light and dark mode switching back and forth before I permanently set it to light mode. This is a customizable option.

My 2012 Zero ZF9 had a button that you could press to display the motor rpms down to a single digit. It was pretty useless as the numbers changed faster than I could read them. BTW, you could also press the button to switch between Metric and English speed and distance displays.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2021, 03:09:13 AM »

Did V20 upgrade yesterday.  All went fine and said it was completed successfully but turning it back on had an error code 8 upgrade failure.  Cleared the code and checked current version of software and it is indeed V20.  Not sure what happened but a little weird.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2021, 04:22:56 AM »

V20 went reasonably well for me. Did it via the app on iPhone. Upgrade took about 15 minutes, then the bike restarted and the app was stuck on a screen saying something like waiting for motorcycle. I left it like that for maybe 10 minutes before giving up and force closing the app and relaunching. Confirmed I'm on V20 and the app said no more updates available.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2021, 05:21:22 AM »

V20 went reasonably well for me. Did it via the app on iPhone. Upgrade took about 15 minutes, then the bike restarted and the app was stuck on a screen saying something like waiting for motorcycle. I left it like that for maybe 10 minutes before giving up and force closing the app and relaunching. Confirmed I'm on V20 and the app said no more updates available.

That is a similar response to a firmware update that I would have when updating my 2018 S since I bought it. However, the last update a few months ago did not exhibit that response. It downloaded quickly and didn't exhibit any weirdness.  :)  I wonder why?  ???  Maybe things will improve once the need for regular updates fades.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2021, 05:23:06 AM by Richard230 »
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2021, 12:20:28 PM »

This firmware upgrade has me INFURIATED.

I almost got rubbed out today merging on a high speed turnpike I use.

I went to pass to get off at an exit and there was no extra speed to be had. I was stuck at around 106MPH and barely made it past the car I was merging in front of, to the spot where I intended to be. I almost had to run off the road because I couldn't merge.

I looked down. What is wrong! I noticed the mode was no longer "Commute", my created mode,  but "CANYON".

This mode had limited my speed to 108MPH. Surprise!!!!!!

I then attempted to re-enter my original mode. No matter what I do, it always defaults or resets to a maximum speed of 108MPH, which means in practice 105-106MPH.

I can enter a mode or update a created mode to any speed, but when I check again with the app it has set the maximum speed back to 108.

Maddening.

They better fix this fast. I'm very angry. Almost getting killed will do that to you.

"Latest and greatest". MY ASS

You almost killed me dudes. You changed my bike and didnt tell me. I almost got fucking killed.


« Last Edit: November 17, 2021, 12:23:35 PM by 2020_SRS_Commuter »
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2021, 04:00:44 PM »

So, er, doing 108mph on your morning commute doesn't ring any alarm bells either then...?

Cas :)
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2021, 04:06:17 PM »

I don't see any problem with doing 108mph. However, having to do 108mph so you can cut in front of someone to just about make the exit? Your riding is what will perhaps get you or someone else killed.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2021, 08:44:16 PM »

I did some experiments last night and this morning. Any parameters I change in the custom mode will persist; display color, torque, traction control, regen, everything... but the max speed always reverts to 108mph. California is not open yet, I will call for help in a couple hours.

Don't be so quick to judge how fast I should be riding. I've been commuting on two wheels for almost 40 years and I'm still here.

On the portion of my commute I was commenting on, its a wide open highway where the average speed of everyone ranges from around 85 to 100 mph. Mom wagons with cheerios on the floor are sailing along faster than many people ever go. And in this part of that highway, the road has been straight and open with clear visibility for almost the last mile, so speeds pick up even more. That's the way it is. Such places do exist in the United States. Its not out of line at all to need to speed up to , say, an increase of 20mph vs the traffic just to get a spot to exit, and suddenly with no warning I was unable to do it.

On a road like this, having my speed limited to 106 is a liability. It limits my mobility to get out of people's way as well as to get where I want to go.

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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2021, 09:08:28 PM »

I was kind of hoping that Commuter's comment was a joke about being limited to 108 mph (says someone who's Zero is limited to 98 mph and never goes faster than 75).  But I guess he is serious. In most U.S. states getting stopped by the cops doing over 100 mph will cause your bike to be towed and you needing a taxi ride home and also perhaps having your license suspended. While my time is valuable (at least to me) I don't think it is worth the risk to ride that fast in commute traffic.

Good luck with Zero. I am not sure how much sympathy you will get from them if you tell the story the way you did. You might want to tone it down a bit and just stick to questions regarding the parameters of the "canyon" programming and how to bypass it.
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Re: New SR/F and SR/S firmware
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2021, 09:43:35 PM »

In other news, my SR/F seems to refuse to upgrade the firmware (over cellular)... Error code 8.
And I still can't pair the Pixel 4a with it. I've tried turning off every other wireless feature on the device too to minimise interference - WiFi, NFC, location, Nearby Share, Personal Safety, etc. - but no joy, it just won't pair. The bug's clearly in the shitty Zero Android app though because my Toyota, Alexa, and Interphone Avant all connect just fine.

Cas :)
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