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Tepco

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2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« on: November 04, 2021, 06:15:42 AM »

First post, I purchased a used 2016 Eva that was layed down almost 99% cosmetic damage, like a grass slide.
Problem is it's been sitting for almost a year and the battery seems completely dead.
I tried to charge it at a public charge station but it wouldn't initiate.
I'm not sure if I was doing it correctly or if it's so dead it won't start charging, or if I need to check anything before I start.
Thanks, I am a motorcycle mechanic but very little experience with ebikes
Thanks in advance!
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2021, 07:10:13 AM »

First post, I purchased a used 2016 Eva that was layed down almost 99% cosmetic damage, like a grass slide.
Problem is it's been sitting for almost a year and the battery seems completely dead.
I tried to charge it at a public charge station but it wouldn't initiate.
I'm not sure if I was doing it correctly or if it's so dead it won't start charging, or if I need to check anything before I start.
Thanks, I am a motorcycle mechanic but very little experience with ebikes
Thanks in advance!
Is your battery  SOC at 0?  0 miles of range left?


You could have better luck with a J-1772 charge. An  AC charge avoids the initiation  process by using the charger in the bike. Do you have the granny cable for the bike? Or a J-1772 that you can use?


CCS charging is rather picky during the initiation process. It will not start the charge if it doesn't like what it sees. IOW, out of range of what is expected.



What I am thinking is the voltage is too low for the DC initiation process but it could be okay with an AC charge. IAC, you want to get it charged ASAP, the longer you wait, the more likely it is to do permanent battery damage (if not damaged already).


The worse thing you can do to those batteries is leave it for many days totally discharged. But there is still some chance that it can be recovered.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2021, 08:40:21 AM »

First post, I purchased a used 2016 Eva that was layed down almost 99% cosmetic damage, like a grass slide.
Problem is it's been sitting for almost a year and the battery seems completely dead.
I tried to charge it at a public charge station but it wouldn't initiate.
I'm not sure if I was doing it correctly or if it's so dead it won't start charging, or if I need to check anything before I start.
Thanks, I am a motorcycle mechanic but very little experience with ebikes
Thanks in advance!

Did you ride it to the station or did you just trailer it there and plug it in?

Are there any flashing lights on the dash? Specifically there's an intermittent pulsing red light that is an indicator the main pack is still in the safe zone.

If that's not working you're going to need to take it to a dealer where they can check the voltage of the main pack and assess its condition. Whereabouts are you?
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2021, 09:10:34 AM »

I trailered it to the charger, it has no lights at all. I have the key but no charging cables. I have 220 at my house but need to know what cable to purchase. I'll look into the J-1772. I do have access to Zero chargers if they are the same.
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2021, 09:11:11 AM »

And I'm in Greensboro NC.
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2021, 10:16:27 AM »

I trailered it to the charger, it has no lights at all. I have the key but no charging cables. I have 220 at my house but need to know what cable to purchase. I'll look into the J-1772. I do have access to Zero chargers if they are the same.
After the initiation was done, what error did the CCS charger give?


If you have a 14-50R for your 240 VAC in your house, you want something like this.




-Don-  Auburn, CA


 
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2021, 10:29:56 AM »

And I'm in Greensboro NC.

This is beyond you. Contact Sev Adelman at Team Powersports in Raleigh.
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2021, 08:51:47 PM »

I trailered it to the charger, it has no lights at all. I have the key but no charging cables. I have 220 at my house but need to know what cable to purchase. I'll look into the J-1772. I do have access to Zero chargers if they are the same.
After the initiation was done, what error did the CCS charger give?


If you have a 14-50R for your 240 VAC in your house, you want something like this.




-Don-  Auburn, CA
Thanks, for that info. I didn't get an error, just "not charging" on the CCS screen.
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2021, 08:56:00 PM »

And I'm in Greensboro NC.

This is beyond you. Contact Sev Adelman at Team Powersports in Raleigh.
The last Zero DS I brought there they couldn't fix and asked me to pick it up. It just stoppedd running. So beyond me or the dealership?
I'm working with Energica east cost headquarters at the moment. I wouldn't mind giving Team Powersports another chance, I'm not sure Sev was working there when I had the Zero.
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2021, 11:04:17 PM »

I don't know what Energica East Coast Headquarters is but Sev truly is your best shot. Ask for him directly.
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2021, 12:39:37 AM »

I don't know what Energica East Coast Headquarters is but Sev truly is your best shot. Ask for him directly.
Will do, Thanks!
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2021, 02:03:03 AM »

Morgan, Energica's North American HQ is in Moresville NC.  Learn something new all the time.

Tepco, I'd be amazed if that battery wasn't completely dead.  I wish you luck with it but it doesn't sound good.

I would like to know what a replacement battery costs on one.  I don't remember anyone posting a battery replacement issue before.
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2021, 06:00:19 AM »

Morgan, Energica's North American HQ is in Moresville NC.  Learn something new all the time.

I already knew about that location. It's an empty warehouse and an accountant.
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2021, 06:06:05 AM »

So I found out today that it had power in May, and was sitting since then. I'll be bringing it to the dealer this week. I have no idea what a battery cost for one but I might be able to answer that question soon enough..lol..
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Re: 2016 Eva completely dead battery?
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2021, 06:14:14 AM »

The thing I'd be thinking about is "does Energica have any replacement 13.4 packs?"

I doubt there's been a single order since the + models were announced and I wonder how much old inventory of the EIG cells they have.
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